Hi, Just for the record I don't agree at all with Henning's outburst. I was even offended by it to be honest. I've yet to see a single tangible fact that would justify the outburst.
Thanks -Vincent > -----Original Message----- > From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: mardi 6 septembre 2005 10:12 > To: Brett Porter > Cc: dev@maven.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ANN] Maven XDoc Plug-in 1.9.2 released > > Hi, > > I knew that this would come out wrong / will be read wrong. > > a) I'm aware that this is not Jakarta. It is Maven. So rules are > probably different (I'm not on the Maven PMC, so all I know are the > public pages on maven.apache.org which is not really much. So I > considered the main apache rules from apache.org to apply) > > b) From a personal, scratch my itch, point of view: Great! Bugs fixed, > new plugin, cool. > > My concerns are of a different nature: The ASF is a people driven > organization. It is about participation. About people swapping opinions, > discussing topics. Agreeing. Not agreeing. This means, there are a few > rules to which everyone and every project should try to hold up. One of > them is voting and voting periods. > > If you run a vote which takes only a few hours and then stop it "because > half of the PMC has voted", then you don't have to run a public vote at > all. Just vote on the PMC list and then release. But if you want people > to react on the vote, maybe try out the code that is voted on and be > able to raise objections (look at the commons-email voting thread that > runs on [EMAIL PROTECTED] We were ready to release and then someone > not really involved with c-e before, raised a valid objection about > dependencies) or concerns, then you do have to take some time to allow > people to react. > > If you don't want or care about these reactions, then a project is no > longer people and community driven. Which is _the_ _main_ _point_ of all > ASF projects. This is what I meant with 'just watching the big guys > doing their thing'. Apache and Apache projects is about "everyone can > participate". > > The mail went to the users-list because the announcement was sent only > there (I couldn't find it on the dev list, but this can be due to my > personal mailing list setup, if this is the case then apologies). I > agree that -dev is the better choice. [snip] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
