+1 Agree. Not sure of special flag, getting back online will be as simple as sending an email to PMC list
On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 at 15:45, Slawomir Jaranowski <s.jaranow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 at 21:43, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > I think the idea is not to *remove* members. > > My understanding (at least, what I agree with) is to flag members as active > > or not. > > I don't see an option to flag a user ... > > We can simply remove from the project and as requested we can add > again, ASF account will still exist. > > For security reasons when somebody doesn't use an account for a long > time it can be not managed and monitored by the owner so it can happen > that an attacker can try to take over it. > So we should remove access for such a reason. > > > > This would help having a better understanding of the community dynamics, > > as indicated in the original email. > > If we don't remove members, any inactive member can just be active again by > > simply... becoming active. > > > > Guillaume > > > > Le mar. 22 oct. 2024 à 21:36, Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org> a > > écrit : > > > > > -1 > > > > > > At least once I have personally brought a long dormant Maven PMC > > > member out of hibernation to approve PRs and releases, and it was very > > > helpful for moving the train along when active PMC members weren't > > > interested enough in what my team was doing to review code and vote > > > for releases. And now that I think about it, I also had to do that > > > (reach out to a former maintainer to reclaim ownership of a repo and > > > project) for a non-Apache project where the current maintainer had > > > gone incommunicado and could not be reached. > > > > > > Perhaps even more importantly I have seen other Apache projects get > > > captured by a single active PMC member with idiosyncratic ideas about > > > software development and go seriously off the rails to the detriment > > > of users. > > > > > > A larger pool of PMC members and committers, even long dormant ones, > > > provides at least some buffer against this dysfunction. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 4:17 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > I would like to propose a project policy change (followed by > > > > implementation) regarding "emeritus" status of PMCs and members. > > > > > > > > Proposal: > > > > 1) IF a PMC member is inactive for 24 months (did NOT participate in > > > > any VOTE [by casting binding vote] OR did not create any commit that > > > > ended up in the project), he should be automatically moved to > > > > "emeritus PMC" status. > > > > 2) IF a committer is inactive for 24 months (did NOT participate in > > > > any VOTE [by casting vote] OR did not create and/or review any commit > > > > that ended up in the project), he should be automatically moved to > > > > "emeritus committer" status. > > > > > > > > Reasoning: > > > > Currently if interested party checks ASF report about Maven project on > > > > https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?maven , the presented data > > > > is skewed, if not even false, about "who" (and more importantly "how > > > > many") user is working on a project. This can lead to some unpleasant > > > > misunderstandings as well (from "why is my PR not reviewed yet" to > > > > many others). Moreover, this same (wrong) number may in fact lessen > > > > potential contributors, make them turn away and choose another, less > > > > supported project to join. Finally, I think we should shrink the > > > > circle of "admin" powered users to those we are almost certain are > > > > around us and involved. Project already has "emeritus" roles for both, > > > > PMCs and committers AFAIK (correct me if I am wrong). > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > T > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Elliotte Rusty Harold > > > elh...@ibiblio.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------ > > Guillaume Nodet > > > > -- > Sławomir Jaranowski > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org