On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 8:19 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ....except that if you dont have it when you need (default) you have no > solution In my experience, about half the time when I do need a log message it still isn't there. I have to use a debugger, packet inspection, or some other technique to figure out what's going on. Programmers are very, very bad at predicting which log messages are likely to be useful. Even if it is present, it probably won't tell me most of what I need to know to understand and fix the problem. Log messages are not that helpful in practice. The reality is devs don't need almost all log messages almost all of the time. In those circumstances the sensible thing to do is to turn them off by default and require extra steps to turn them on for the 0.0001% of the cases when it might be helpful. -- Elliotte Rusty Harold elh...@ibiblio.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
