A few notes on the proposal:
- Leave a dependency graph virtually untouched. Only change/override nodes in place. Don't exclude dependencies and include new ones on a different level in the graph. Think, whatever it means, served dependencies in mojo shouldnt have to rely on this new section using getXArtifact or dependency visitor. No real good reason to break everyone there. A not used override must break the build (it is an unexpected bug and would make the dev life hard otherwise). I perfectly see that it will break building a submodule in several cases but otherwise the section will become unmanageable with time (see hibernate or cxf example) and since you loose the dependency relationship with this option compared to exclusions, it way too much work to maintain it in practise. (This is why I think it shouldnt be done this way but very worse case at dependency level giving hints for overrides and not elsewhere, mixed with dependency managementnit is trivial to handle and maintain then). Pom rewriter must handle this section by dropping it and replacing it by exludes to keep compatibility with 3rd party resolvers (deployment). Overall, I still think it would be neat to see it as an extension for maven 3.8.2 or 4 to be testable and validate design choices and actual usage on real dependencies compared to current option. Le sam. 4 sept. 2021 à 23:21, Enno Thieleke <enno.thiel...@holisticon.de> a écrit : > Hello again, > > I tried to create a proposal in/under > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5964567, > but I'm not allowed to, which makes sense since I'm new to the wiki, so I > committed a proposal to my fork: > https://github.com/strohmattenverleger/maven/blob/MNG-4530/Dependency-Overrides.md > > The current version probably still contains errors and misses details but > I imo they need to be worked out in a group effort. > > Some feedback/comments would be appreciated. > > Maybe you could create a proposal page in your wiki and grant me edit > rights (user eth)? > > Kind regards > Enno > > ________________________________ > From: Enno Thieleke <enno.thiel...@holisticon.de> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:59 AM > To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides > > Hi Michael, > > I'll take this as a "go ahead, if it's good we'll accept it". > > Just a few more questions before I start. > > For the issue: Would reopening > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-4530 suffice or would you like > to see a new one? > > Where do I create the proposal? > > What should be created first, the issue or the proposal? I'm asking, > because in the proposal we'd work out the details and after that's done, > that's where the issue becomes relevant (no issue, no code changes). At > least that's how I'm used to implementing changes like this. I don't want > to have created unnecessary noise in your issue system, if - for some > unknown eventuality - the proposal doesn't get your approval. > > Is it ok to use one issue for changes in both projects, Maven and > maven-resolver? > > Kind regards > Enno > ________________________________ > From: Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:01 PM > To: dev@maven.apache.org <dev@maven.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides > > Am 2021-08-25 um 20:51 schrieb Enno Thieleke: > > Hello again, > > > > some days have passed and I didn't want to distract you people from > releasing the new version of Maven, but now that it's done, I'm getting > back to this topic. > > > > I'm asking for the opinion of the Maven PMC and committers regarding > this feature. I'd like to see some sort of dependency override/replacement > mechanism. One that's powerful, yet easy to use, which doesn't require > boilerplate XML and which leaves the dependency graph virtually untouched > (by that I mean the shape of the graph remains the same, unless additional > transitive dependencies are brought into play by overrides/replacements). > > > > Please let me know what you people think of such a feature. Maybe a vote > is in order, but I'm not sure and I wouldn't know how to call for one > properly here. Please tell me how to proceed. I'm only willing to commit > more time to this, if I have an ok from you that it'll be merged once it > meets the quality standards of the Maven project. > > As I said previously, this perfectly makes sense, but having this in > Core means that someone needs to create an issue, proposal and a PR. > Consider that no one of us is getting paid on this, so free time only. > Unless it comes from the community, I see little chances to have this soon. > > Michael > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >
