> I'm pretty sure this can be solved without touching the maven startup
scripts.
> And I don't like the idea to hack the script

Agreed. I did not like the idea either, and even worse, I was unable to
reproduce the results I had.



Am Mo., 14. Dez. 2020 um 21:58 Uhr schrieb Robert Scholte <
rfscho...@apache.org>:

> I'm pretty sure this can be solved without touching the maven startup
> scripts.
> And I don't like the idea to hack the script because one plugin has issues.
> I expect good help on your question on the jigsaw mailinglist.
>
> Robert
> On 14-12-2020 15:21:04, Benjamin Marwell <bmarw...@apache.org> wrote:
> I was able to provide a test, but the only solution to the underlying I
> found was to modify the mvn start script by adding the missing modules (or
> maybe even better: all system modules).
>
> From what I could see from slack, plexus compiler would need to be a
> module, requiring jdk.javadoc.
>
> Thus, we could solve it in a maven release 3.6.4 if you wished, or the next
> compiler plugin as soon as the next plexus javac dependency is available.
>
> I wouldn't mind a 3.6.4 release and cherry picking the change to 4.0.0, as
> that would be a quick solution.
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 17:12 Benjamin Marwell, wrote:
>
> > JIRA issue (please kindly review):
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MCOMPILER-445
> >
> >
> > Am So., 13. Dez. 2020 um 14:07 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Marwell <
> > bmarw...@apache.org>:
> >
> >> > If is has proven itself for jlink, then we know we can do the same for
> >> all other tools.
> >>
> >> I tested my PR with a JavaFX app and it did work. But there's no release
> >> yet, only the ITs and my test project. But adding a parameter to disable
> >> the ToolProvider as a fallback should not be a problem.
> >>
> >> A test case should be ready by tomorrow morning, but I cannot make any
> >> promises about the implementation, as I work on it only in my free time.
> >> Possibly, there is quite a bit of code to refactor as we want to have as
> >> few code duplication as possible.
> >>
> >> Please do ourselves a favour and vote for all MultiRelease (MR) issues
> at
> >> jetbrains. They currently do not support MR projects, and it is a PIT*
> to
> >> develop for MR jars (from an IDE perspective). Thanks. 😉
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 13:38 Robert Scholte, wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, that makes a lot of sense. If is has proven itself for jlink, then
> >>> we know we can do the same for all other tools.
> >>> If we have a good feeling about the implementation, we could use it at
> >>> reference for other plugins as some kind of pattern.
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>> On 13-12-2020 11:39:02, Benjamin Marwell wrote:
> >>> Robert already suggested to use ToolProvider for the JDK9+ builds. I
> >>> created such a patch for jlink and I could create s similar one for the
> >>> compiler and javadoc plugin. This would solve the underlying problem
> from
> >>> my understanding.
> >>>
> >>> As fork mode and fork count would not apply, I would suggest that the
> >>> ToolProvider is only used if fork mode is "no fork". This way, existing
> >>> configurations are not affected. Does that make sense?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2020, 20:49 Enrico Olivelli, wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Is anyone interested in helping with this problem?
> >>> >
> >>> > Otherwise with the advent of jdk16 we will probably see people that
> >>> need to
> >>> > switch to fork mode for javac, with slower builds, and we will see
> >>> > complaints from users
> >>> >
> >>> > The problem probably is is plexus compiler and the way we start
> javac,
> >>> we
> >>> > should enable jdk.javadoc module
> >>> >
> >>> > Unfortunately I don't have time
> >>> >
> >>> > Enrico
> >>> >
> >>> > Il Gio 12 Nov 2020, 13:59 Enrico Olivelli ha
> >>> > scritto:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Yes, the problem is about javac with "no-fork + -Xdoclint"
> >>> > >
> >>> > > using no-fork is not a good option because it slows down a lot big
> >>> multi
> >>> > > module projects
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Enrico
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Il giorno gio 12 nov 2020 alle ore 13:55 Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> > > rmannibu...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> @Graham I guess you can force the compiler to fork and force
> >>> doclint to
> >>> > >> none in javadoc plugin config (ensure to use a recent version).
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> > >> @rmannibucau | Blog
> >>> > >> | Old Blog
> >>> > >> | Github
> >>> > >> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> >>> > >> LinkedIn | Book
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 13:51, Graham Leggett
> >>> > a
> >>> > >> écrit :
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > On 12 Nov 2020, at 14:03, Enrico Olivelli
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > I have fallen into this issue about Maven + Maven Compiler
> >>> Plugin +
> >>> > >> JDK16
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > This is the issue on JDK issue tracking
> >>> > >> > > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8253996
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > Basically -Xdoclint:missing does not work anymore when you run
> >>> javac
> >>> > >> > inside
> >>> > >> > > the same JVM as Maven core, because the JVM lacks the
> >>> jdk.javadoc
> >>> > >> module.
> >>> > >> > > If you run javac in "fork" mode the problem is not present
> >>> because
> >>> > the
> >>> > >> > > external "javac" program loads correctly jdk.javadoc module
> and
> >>> is
> >>> > >> able
> >>> > >> > to
> >>> > >> > > execute "-Xdoclint"
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > it looks like we have to fix it on Maven, I am not sure the
> >>> problem
> >>> > is
> >>> > >> > > about maven-compiler-plugin or plexus compiler, as it is
> >>> because the
> >>> > >> JVM
> >>> > >> > > that executes Maven core lacks the jdk.javadoc module.
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > On the JDK side it looks like the issue is to be closed as
> >>> "works
> >>> > for
> >>> > >> me"
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > Thoughts?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > I have been smashing my head against the javadoc plugin and
> >>> > >> > maven-release-plugin, which keeps failing releases over and over
> >>> again
> >>> > >> on
> >>> > >> > the basis that the docs can’t be built.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > In the absence of a way to fix this, if there is a way to switch
> >>> this
> >>> > >> off
> >>> > >> > it would help a huge amount.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Regards,
> >>> > >> > Graham
> >>> > >> > —
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
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