Hi,

On 26/02/17 12:22, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
now I see your reasoning

3.3.n were expected to be final quality: they were not, they were dropped (vote
result was -1, result sent to trash)

That is the difference here. The alpha-1 at the moment does not have any -1 yet...(not that I seen one, correct please if I'm oversight something)...

So it should be released and published to central.

If we have a -1 than this shouldn't be published to central cause we have found issues which prevent using as a release...



3.5.0-alpha-n is expected to be alpha quality: from tests, we have the alpha
quality (IMHO even more quality, but not final quality), then the vote will be
positive *for an alpha* and we'll publish the result

Agreed..


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


Regards,

Hervé

Le dimanche 26 février 2017, 11:44:48 CET Robert Scholte a écrit :
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 04:58:24 +0100, Manfred Moser

<[email protected]> wrote:
Imho it should go to Central just like any other release. All components
and everything. The version clearly tells thats its alpha and this
allows for clean testing, embedding and so on.

We have done it in the past and I dont see any reason for changing this.

Well, Karl Heinz's link only shows those which were deployed, not the ones
which weren't.
Also, we've skipped a lot of versions in the 3.3.x, because we had a
different approach: just make that 3.3.n and simply burn it if there are
issues. We could have called this release 3.5.0, we see some issues and
decide if that should block the release.

The jansi temp files might be a blocker for me if we are going to publish
this version.

Robert

Manfred

Stephen Connolly wrote on 2017-02-25 16:05:
So if I am embedding Maven, how do I embed Maven 3.5.0-alpha-1?

(I know it should not be a big issue as we should have the release soon
anyway, but more from the principal POV)

Consider the Jenkins "evil" job type plugin that has dependencies on
some
of the artifacts that are in the staging repository? If there is a need
to
update the adapter libs for that to work with alpha-1, how would that be
possible if we don't publish the artifacts at least somewhere?
On Sat 25 Feb 2017 at 23:23, Robert Scholte <[email protected]>

wrote:
It depends on what the task of Central is. If it for *dependencies*,
there's no need to publish pre-final versions; don't think we should
motive plugins to depend on alphas.

AFAIK the common way to get a new version of Maven is via
http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and not via Central.

This is also about hygiene. Not every artifact belongs in Central
(we've
seen continuous deployment-like releases), and pre-releases could
belong
to that group.

Funny, just like Jigsaw there's a clear difference between libraries
and
applications; I don't mind treating them differently, especially in
these
unofficial release stages.

Robert

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 22:55:55 +0100, Karl Heinz Marbaise

<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

based on the started discussion about either to bring 3.5.0-alpha-1

to

Central or not I would suggest to discuss in a separate thread and
prevent using the VOTE's threads for that (as Stephen already

mentioned).

Using Central:
  o Everybody can use it and make tests on it.

Using an other repository:
  o Which one?

Using only dist area? Or something different?

WDY?

Based on earlier releases which had been in Central with alpha's:
http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cgav%7C1%7Cg%3A%22org.apache.maven%22%2
0AND%20a%3A%22apache-maven%22>>>
Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

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