ok, thanks for the feedback: we're in the right direction
I'll immediately change the configuration to every Jira project, since the 
current SUREFIRE configuration lets committers work on daily basis, which is 
important!


then I just had a look at Jira documentation [1]

and it seems managing versions is in "Administer Projects" permission, like 
other abilities:
"edit project role membership, project components, project versions and some 
project details ('Project Name', 'URL', 'Project Lead', 'Project 
Description')"

This means we now have 2 choices:

1. either give this ability only to PMC members, like it is done at the 
moment: committers have a lot of freedom on issues, but not on projects: if 
they need a version or a component, they'll ask to PMC, like at the moment on 
other activities related to release management

2. or give the project administrator role to committers

I like the second option, but the only associated ability that IMHO makes this 
decision debatable is "edit project role membership". I'll ask Mark if this 
one can be configured independently from the other ones

If not, we'll have to make a choice.
IIUC, with current SUREFIRE configuration, that will be applied immediately to 
every project, we're not in a hurry: this is only a point to decide in the 
near future, isn't it?

Regards,

Hervé

[1] https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Managing+Project+Permissions

Le samedi 11 avril 2015 12:09:03 Andreas Gudian a écrit :
> Hervé, it looks much better now, as far as issues are concerned: I can
> assign issues and edit all parts of them (including title and descrition).
> That's great :).
> 
> But I still can't manage the versions, e.g. add new ones, mark them
> released, or add descriptions to them. As that is part of the stuff that
> needs to be done when releasing  something, I think that the Committers
> role should have the rights for that as well... Is that possible?
> 
> 
> Btw, I think that the work that you, Infra and Codehaus have put in for
> this is remarkable - a big thanks from me as well!
> 
> 2015-04-11 1:38 GMT+02:00 Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Dan and Andreas, you're in maven-developers groups = what is expected
> > 
> > Then if you can't do anything useful, yes, there is some part missing in
> > the
> > config: we'll need to figure out which one :)
> > 
> > Currently, the pattern applied to the Maven projects regarding roles is:
> > - role Administrators = maven-administrators
> > - role Developers = maven-developers
> > which seems logical
> > 
> > looking at Permissions, I see that most permissions are set on PMC and
> > Committers roles, but absolutely no permission is set on Developers role:
> > I
> > thing it is the problem!
> > 
> > To test another config on one project before doing it on every other,
> > let's try
> > on SUREFIRE:
> > I just configured role PMC for maven-administrators and role Committers
> > for
> > maven-developers
> > 
> > Can you check what actions this lets you do and if somthing is still
> > missing,
> > please?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Hervé
> > 
> > Le vendredi 10 avril 2015 23:34:49 Andreas Gudian a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I already am in the group "maven-developers", but I don't seem to be
> > > able
> > > to do anything meaningfull, like managing versions or assigning issues
> > > to
> > > myself... I checked in SUREFIRE and in MECLIPSE.
> > > 
> > > Is there some part missing in the config?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Andreas
> > > 
> > > 2015-04-10 23:23 GMT+02:00 Dan Tran <dant...@gmail.com>:
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > Please add me as well
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > -D
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I added you to the last request for maven-developers group
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9422
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hervé
> > > > > 
> > > > > Le vendredi 10 avril 2015 22:20:30 Mirko Friedenhagen a écrit :
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > now I tried to assign
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MRELEASE-901 to myself and
> > 
> > was
> > 
> > > > > > unable to do so. However I was allowed to resolve the issue (and
> > 
> > could
> > 
> > > > > > close it as well).
> > > > > > When going to my profile
> > > > > > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa) I see
> > 
> > that I
> > 
> > > > > > am only in the group jira-users and not in any other group (so is
> > > > > > Robert Scholte btw, but he has assigned issues).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards Mirko
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://illegalstateexception.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > https://github.com/mfriedenhagen/ (
> > 
> > http://osrc.dfm.io/mfriedenhagen)
> > 
> > > > > > https://bitbucket.org/mfriedenhagen/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The user name mapping seems to be ok, but I seem to be missing
> > > > > > > permissions to do anything sensible at all ?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > (krosenvold)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Kristian
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2015-04-06 23:58 GMT+02:00 Mirko Friedenhagen <
> > > > 
> > > > mfriedenha...@gmail.com
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> A big thank you from my side as well, I logged in to
> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/ and was easily able to see all
> > 
> > my
> > 
> > > > > > >> reported issues and am allowed to edit the open ones.
> > > > > > >> Regards Mirko
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> http://illegalstateexception.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > >> https://github.com/mfriedenhagen/ (
> > 
> > http://osrc.dfm.io/mfriedenhagen
> > 
> > > > )
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> https://bitbucket.org/mfriedenhagen/
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>> The mapping did not work for my user as all issues that were
> > > > > 
> > > > > assigned to
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>> "jason" on the Codehaus side are now mapping to Jason Lane. I
> > 
> > also
> > 
> > > > > can
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>> no longer even log into issues.apache.org  to comment on
> > > > 
> > > > INFRA-9389.
> > > > 
> > > > > > >>> My codehaus user is "jason", and my Apache user is "jvanzyl".
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>> I lined up all my email addresses but only did so 3 hours
> > 
> > before
> > 
> > > > the
> > > > 
> > > > > > >>> migration so maybe that is the issue. But I've lost all access
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > > the
> > > > 
> > > > > > >>> Apache JIRA instance all together and all my issues are
> > 
> > assigned
> > 
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>> someone else completely.>>>
> > > > > > >>> On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <
> > 
> > herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> there were a lot of manual tasks that took hours, really many
> > > > 
> > > > hours
> > > > 
> > > > > > >>>> (the night was shorter than expected), even more for Mark
> > > > > > >>>> than
> > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > 
> > > > > me:
> > > > > > >>>> it's great to see that the result is positive = you can
> > 
> > continue
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > > > >>>> work on the issues
> > 
> > > > > > >>>> but everything didn't go as expected regarding accounts:
> > please
> > 
> > > > > report
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>> any
> > > > > > >>>> problem to INFRA-9389 [1] with precise info regarding
> > 
> > usernames
> > 
> > > > > > >>>> at
> > > > > > >>>> Codehaus
> > > > > > >>>> and at ASF
> > > > > > >>>> 
> > > > > > >>>> Thank you Ben for all the Codehaus support, and big big big
> > 
> > thank
> > 
> > > > > you
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>> to Mark at ASF infra for the huge work on import.
> > > > > > >>>> 
> > > > > > >>>> Regards,
> > > > > > >>>> 
> > > > > > >>>> Hervé
> > > > > > >>>> 
> > > > > > >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9389
> > > > > > >>>> 
> > > > > > >>>> Le lundi 6 avril 2015 11:55:01 Robert Scholte a écrit :
> > > > > > >>>>> I would like to take this chance to give huge kudo's to all
> > > > > 
> > > > > involved
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>> parties.
> > > > > > >>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>> My first impression is that the migration went very well,
> > 
> > since
> > 
> > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > 
> > > > > can
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>> continue my work at https://issues.apache.org/jira as I was
> > 
> > used
> > 
> > > > > to.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>> The preparations already showed that it was more than a
> > 
> > simple
> > 
> > > > > copy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>> It was a huge move and not everything could be automated
> > 
> > (e.g.
> > 
> > > > > making
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>> all
> > > > > > >>>>> 60+ Jira projects read-only at Codehaus) but the end result
> > 
> > is
> > 
> > > > > great.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>> Thanks a lot Hervé, ASF Infra and Codehaus Support!
> > > > > > >>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>> Op Sat, 04 Apr 2015 23:10:55 +0200 schreef Hervé BOUTEMY
> > > > > > >>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>> <herve.bout...@free.fr>:
> > > > > > >>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>> Codehaus was put read-only during migration, when we
> > 
> > started by
> > 
> > > > > doing
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>> dump
> > > > > > >>>>>> of the content.
> > > > > > >>>>>> Import at ASF is not one yet: should be done tomorrow.
> > > > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>> You just have to way for 24 hours that the migration is
> > 
> > done :)
> > 
> > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>> Hervé
> > > > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>> Le samedi 4 avril 2015 14:03:43 Tibor Digana a écrit :
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Hello guys,
> > > > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I am not able to find
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I am not able to manage the issues at Codehaus either ASF.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> What can we do about that?
> > > > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Tibor
> > > > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > 
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> > > > > 
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