> On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Stephen Connolly 
> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 25 November 2014 at 14:31, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> -1 - only because a) I don’t understand the purpose of what is going on on
>> the bird’s chest and
> 
> 
> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmbWMy3KPTNcnuorFhjAJABm6Al8mGBu8pMsxf8mmljydrIR4O
> 
> https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT24xwn6POkIGDYTCiTQV-Mplu-S7Cd1tRtgiraaZb9VutICnW1
>  
> <https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT24xwn6POkIGDYTCiTQV-Mplu-S7Cd1tRtgiraaZb9VutICnW1>
Nice photos!

> 
> just two photos of owls that a quick GIS revealed where the feathers on the
> owls belly are typically a lighter colour or a different pattern from the
> rest of the owl.
> 
> Originally this was a white patch... people objected...
> 
> The scalloping is to give the feather effect... and there are two sets of
> scalloping because any single sold colour results in the shotgun effect
> 
> Some people go extra cute and make the center section a "heart"
> 
> https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlwk2CQuHz9q9alG8iY5BDiC0mqWOpJBdIMmxXO7nZpN7xhWP1LA
>  
> <https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlwk2CQuHz9q9alG8iY5BDiC0mqWOpJBdIMmxXO7nZpN7xhWP1LA>

This one actually looks like an owl to me.

> 
> Others go for a different colour with more explicit feather imagery
> 
> https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVOyxAkja3O_JbGfsKAhwAVFHS1fNUblq3NiT8IxAgE6waH-ARcA
>  
> <https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVOyxAkja3O_JbGfsKAhwAVFHS1fNUblq3NiT8IxAgE6waH-ARcA>

Hmm. Looks like an owl wearing “old man” pants to me. ;-)

> 
> We want something different from others... and I like this end result...
> 
> 
>> b) I love the idea of putting the bird in a sweater with the letter “M” on
>> it.
>> 
>> 
> My skills of an artist did not give a good rendition... I did try though.
> If my skills were better perhaps I could have delivered such an owl...
> maybe somebody will contribute a version where CK removes his glasses and
> turns into super-owl
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014 schrieb Stephen Connolly :
>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background
>>>> 
>>>> Background
>>>> =========
>>>> 
>>>> I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorganisation and a
>>>> rewrite. Users cannot find what they need, and the end result is that
>>>> people keep on abusing maven rather than having maven help them.
>>>> 
>>>> Try as I might, I have been unable to motivate myself to do the
>>>> reorganisation with the current dated look and feel of the site... I am
>> not
>>>> saying that picking a new logo and selecting a mascot will result in
>> making
>>>> progress, but it can't hurt and I believe it will help
>>>> 
>>>> Proposed changes
>>>> ===============
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Change the logo font to Alte Haas Grotesk Bold with italics applied
>> by
>>>> Inkscape
>>>> 2. Change the highlighted letter from 'a' to 'v' and replace the v with
>> two
>>>> Apache Feathers
>>>> 3. Adopt the (currently unnamed) owl as our mascot
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a link to the font:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.dafont.com/alte-haas-grotesk.font
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a large version of the owl and the logo:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
>>>> 
>>>> A regular version of the own and the logo, e.g. a size suitable for use
>> in
>>>> the top of the standard maven sites:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final.png
>>>> 
>>>> (Note that in all likelihood, the mascot would probably end up on the
>> other
>>>> side of the title bar from the logo... and that is IF the mascot ends
>> up on
>>>> the title bar)
>>>> 
>>>> Here is both of those rendered in a site (as it can be helpful to see
>> the
>>>> graphics adjacent to text)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-context.png
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Logo Rational
>>>> ===========
>>>> 
>>>> If we do some searches for the Maven logo:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://www.google.com/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&q=maven+logo&oq=maven+logo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=maven+logo&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBLH&scope=images&pq=maven+logo
>>>> 
>>>> Our current logo, with a single highlighted letter stands out quite well
>>>> from the other "maven" logos, so keeping a highlighted letter and an
>> italic
>>>> rendered font maintains continuity with our current logo.
>>>> 
>>>> By changing the highlighted letter to the `v` and by using two Apache
>>>> feathers to create the `v`, we connect our logo back to Apache... we are
>>>> Apache Maven after all.
>>>> 
>>>> The `v` is also the common short term for version (e.g.v3 is short for
>>>> version 3). Apache Maven puts a lot of emphasis on versions of
>> dependencies
>>>> and plugins... you could say that versions are very important to Maven.
>>>> 
>>>> The colours of the feather were changed to solid colours to match the
>> owl
>>>> mascot's scarf, beak and eyebrows
>>>> 
>>>> Voting rules
>>>> =========
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone who is subscribed to the dev or users list is eligible to vote.
>>>> 
>>>> If you vote multiple times, only your final vote will be counted.
>>>> 
>>>> The vote will be open until 1:00pm GMT on Wed 3rd Dec 2014
>>>> 
>>>> The vote is for all three changes as one single change. Partial votes
>> (e.g.
>>>> for the logo but not the mascot, or vice-versa) will not be counted.
>>>> 
>>>> I, as the caller of the vote, reserve the right to cancel the vote if
>> this
>>>> vote is putting the harmony of the community at risk.
>>>> 
>>>> If a majority of the PMC believe that this vote is putting the harmony
>> of
>>>> the community at risk, then the PMC may cancel this vote (though if
>> even a
>>>> small minority of the PMC were of that belief, I will more than likely
>> have
>>>> cancelled the vote before the PMC would need to decide... I'm just
>> stating
>>>> this FTR)
>>>> 
>>>> The decision will be a simple majority, there will be no special veto
>>>> powers.
>>>> 
>>>> +1: [ ] Change the logo to the proposed logo and adopt the owl as
>> project
>>>> mascot
>>>> 0: [ ] No opinion
>>>> -1: [ ] No change
>>>> 
>>>> Please only respond with +1, 0 or -1. If you want to discuss the
>> proposed
>>>> changes please use a different thread. This thread is for voting only.
>>>> 
>>>> -Stephen
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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