André, I wrote, "to put into place those things that need to be done to move ahead". That means, to learn what we have to do. You identified one of them: Trust. We need to trust you and vice versa.
So, I am not, as you seem to think I am saying, jumping to conclusions and making this a fait accompli. That's hardly my or anyone's intention. I, we, all recognize that there's a lot to go over. I am rather stating that I want to start, and am doing this publicly. Louis On 2011-05-23, at 05:01 , Andre Schnabel wrote: > Hi Louis, * > > sorry for posting out of the thread, but I'm not subscribet do the list > (following the discussion via mail-archive .com) > >> From: Louis Suarez-Potts >> Date: 2011/5/23 >> Subject: [marketing-dev] Re: ping >> To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org >> > >> >> Let me start by stating that we, Stefan Taxhet, André Schnabel, >> Florian Effenberger, and I, will be holding a teleconference later >> this week to further put into place those things that need to be done >> to move ahead. > > Let me have some words on this propsed conferece, as you seem to put > much more in this than there actually ist. > > The reason for me to suggest (or agree) to such a conference is that > I want to see some common ground in our community. Unfortunately there > seems to be non common voice among those who decided not to join TDF. > > As other people already mentioned - your position as Community Manager > is currently self-claimed (it does in no case fit to the definitions > according to the OOo gudelines). The Community Council did not see > elections and is missing several members. So it is hard to see you or > the current CC as "representative of the project". > > Anyway - I know, that several people are still engouraged to deliver > a free Office Suite for all of our users and do this within a > community of contributors (no matter if they are volunteers, companies, > developers, translators, designers ...). So - I want to speak to those > engaged people, based on trust. > > Unfortunately - you worked hard to establish distrust. Already in March > we had a talk what could be done to work on common tasks. But instead > of trying to collaborate, contact me or TDF and establish trust, you > published some rather FUDish blogs - and even continued with that after > after some clear inidcation, that this will be a problem for further > discussion. You did not even seem to understand or read my mails. > > But now you publically state that we are going to "put into place > those things"? Sorry Louis - we are not there yet. First you need to > establish trust again. Either in a phone call (that was my intention to > join the call) - or by proving you have the backing of the people you > claim to represent (means hold an election or at least get an endorsement > from those who had been elected to the CC). > > regards, > > André > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org > with Subject: help -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
