Hello Stefan,
Le Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:09:02 +0200, Martin Hollmichel <m...@openoffice.org> a écrit : > > Gi, > > Am 06.10.2010 18:19, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > > Hello Martin, > > > > Le Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:36:50 +0200, > > Martin Hollmichel<m...@openoffice.org> a écrit : > > > >> Am 06.10.2010 12:08, schrieb Florian Effenberger: > >>> Hi Peter, > >>> > >>> Peter Junge wrote on 2010-10-05 13.34: > >>> > >>>> despite times of troubles, I'm planning to throw a party for > >>>> OOo's 10th birthday as part of the monthly meeting of the > >>>> Beijing Linux User Group on October 12th. Accordingly, I would > >>>> like to request a subsidy of up to 150 Euro on the expenses of > >>>> the OOo Marketing Project budget to support this little event. > >>> I'm happy to agree to this funding. However, given the current > >>> things going on. I am not sure if I am still eligible for granting > >>> money from the budget. > >> Hmm, the same might apply for other leading member of the other > >> project which had so far also a seat in the community council > >> (http://council.openoffice.org)., this may the opportunity for > >> others to step into this role. Anyhow, the remaing members will > >> look into this request asap, > > > > If I may Martin: I don't see why we should leave just now; and I > > don't remember you moving so fast for any fork there ever was on > > OpenOffice.org > sorry, I don't remember any community fork driven by a member of the > community council. I don't see a conflict of interest if a community > member who decides to contribute to both: the fork and it's parent. But Stefan, here's what's really appalling: all the members of the CC who do not work for Oracle choose to go, and you call that a fork, file and rank it in the fork category as if everything was normal. That is a serious lack of...interest/pedagogy/feeling/ and many other things. On the other hand, I'm not saying that I and others are going to continue at the CC as if nothing has ever happened. I/we will leave, but please do yourself a favour, don't act as if you're kicking us out, please do favour the dialogue first. > but I don't think that this applies for leaders of the different > project and no way claiming that you can have a leading role for both > projects. for me this a classic example for a conflict of interest. > > Also, I would understand this as a gesture by Oracle to stop the > > dialogue as it is now. Please advise. > > > sorry, must be my German mentality: ("Bestimmte Sachen tut man > einfach nicht, auch wenn sie juristisch erlaubt sind. Das hat was mit > Anstand zu tun") Some thing you don't do, even if there are legally > allowed. It's a matter of personal integrity. In Germany it is also > good pratice, when in doubt of a conflict of interest, that you > inform your partners in advance and ask for their opinion, Conflict of interests are indeed not something we wish for. But I disagree that my personal integrity or the one of the TDF members are at stake here: our community is so disfunctional and so broken (before TDF) that we knew we had no option but going forward. German mentality as well: fix everything that's broken, and don't let it linger . Best, Charles. > > But I'm looking forward what others will say about this. > > best, > > Charles. > > > Martin > > >> Martin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
