Ian,

I'm afraid this will lead us nowhere. You know perfectly that there will
not be an Native-Lang project for english. You also know that a
native-lang project is language based, not country based. You also know
that this has nothing to do with the "paranoia" of marketing project
losing the control of I don't know what part of the community. If you
refer to this community as being you, I'm afraid nobody here never had
any control on you anyway.

Now, if you complain about the lack of T-shirts, just go get some at the
nearest supermarket , put a logo on it or "I love OpenOffice.org" and
rest the case. Sometimes life can be simple and easy.
As for me and my colloquialisms.... you know, it's better when people
don't take themselves too seriously. And I'm very sorry if you felt hurt
by my words about the Angles and Saxons having invaded Great Britain
between the 6th and 9th century Christian era, I know that sometimes
some things take a very long time to swallow and get by. I may not have
lots of humor by the way, but this is all very subjective.

Now, could we just switch to some other topic?

Thank you,

Charles.

Ian Lynch a écrit :
> On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 15:25 +0200, Charles Schulz wrote:
>
>   
>>> Quite the point I was making. I'm disenfranchised. Don't confuse England
>>> or English with the USA and US English and associated culture either.
>>> Popular mistake at the moment but some of us respect our cultural
>>> heritage.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Indeed. I perfectly know how to make  the difference, don't worry about
>> this. And I do respect the British/English cultural heritage, as much as
>> I respect any other. Remember, my name is famous for that and has been
>> so for quite some years now.
>>     
>
> And I'm famous for Open Source strategy in education but that doesn't
> stop people questioning my motives whether intentional or not. The fact
> is that the English have no NLC so no possibility of an English
> foundation for fund raising where English people and supporters of
> English culture can take some ownership and raise money and decide how
> to spend it eg on marketing in their own locality. As far as I can tell
> that is in contrast with every other country that has ever asked for a
> NLC. Indeed, there are two Portuguese based projects so why not more
> than one English based project? When an English NL project was proposed
> we had a load of paranoia about forks which seem to me rooted in further
> paranoia about potential loss of control in the marketing project,
> mostly petty politics based on individual personalities - the only thing
> likely to cause a fork is to disenfranchise hardworking people who
> simply ask for the same treatment as others. Open Source politics is
> strong in England yet OOo activists are conspicuous by their absence, I
> don't think that is a coincidence.
>
>   
>> I'm so sorry Ian ol'boy. I didn't mean to hurt you in any way.
>>     
>
> I think any Englishman reading your sentence above would see it as a
> stereotyping parody. Whether this was intended is unknowable but I would
> say in the context of this discussion the onus is on you to be careful
> of how you choose your colloquialisms.
>
>   
>>>>  I know Brits
>>>> can bash the French all the way and I'm sure you got plenty of that in
>>>> store yourself... :-)
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> If I have, I'll keep them to myself rather than use them inappropriately
>>> in a serious discussion.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Waow. Take it easy. I didn't mean any harm whatsoever.
>>     
>
> Maybe, maybe not. On this subject I don't see a lot of scope for humour
> since it has already wasted a lot of time of people who have better
> things to do and from where I stand, reduces the effectiveness of the
> project and the open source movement as a whole. 
>
> Ian
>   

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