Ian Lynch schreef:
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:54 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
MP actually works like this in practice, despite your claims to the
contrary.
I think that is your perspective, quite a lot of people seem to believe
differently but hey, I'm not really that concerned I haven't time to do
much more than I do and its not my responsibility. I try and provide
information here and on the Educ list for people. That's how this thread
arose. Someone asked some questions and I have tried to provide some
honest answers.
It just sometimes work against what you want. And that
seems to infuriate you.
Not at all. I have no axe to grind personally. If I think something is
important enough I'll find a way to do it. You didn't like me promoting
OOo alongside INGOTs at NEA, that's cool, we got space at BETT on the
OpenForum Europe Booth and it was INGOTs only. Mind I was on holiday at
the time so it was a couple of colleagues who did it who are much less
pro-OOo than I am in any case. I have never had any particular
expectations when working on the marketing project, I came to be helpful
and I still try to be within the parameters laid down and the time I can
commit. I do have some important things happening with the UK Government
at present so time is tight and I can probably do OOo more service in
that arena anyway. I try and promote OOo wherever I go. I had my OOo
T-shirt on in the Caribbean and I think persuaded a guy running a small
engineering business to give OOo a try. But none of that is really going
to affect the main MP in any particular way in any case.
The only times I get infuriated is if I get accused of malice when there
is none there or if someone is treated badly unnecessarily. We all get a
bit heated from time to time but mainly with me its with Chad chewing
the fat over Microsoft and I already apologised to him over that. So I
really think you have the wrong person if you think I am frustrated at
not getting my own way on something here. I have far too many other
things to do.
Open source, and OOo is not a "do as you
like" environment. Especially in marketing, we have to ensure our
message is coherent and cogent.
I don't think I ever said it was. Getting the best out of people is what
leadership and management is all about and unfortunately, unlike
machines people vary a lot so that requires a lot of flexibilty of
approach and relationship building that is time consuming. I'm working
on a project at the moment to turn around a new hi-tec school that has
recently failed its OFSTED inspection. £25m of tax payers money (I won't
tell you how much they have spent on MS licenses :-) ) The problem isn't
the brand new building with racks of blade servers etc - you can
probably guess where the problem lies. Solving it is going to be down to
building relationships with people and between people. After that I
might have a chance to convert the place to Open Source ;-)
And we also need to maintain a friendly atmosphere here.
I'm very friendly :-)
We can argue
and disagree--that's what this list is alas known for,
Why alas? Human beings argue and disagree, that is what reality is. What
motivates them? What buttons do you press to get them to say yes I'll do
that? If X is an awkward cuss how do I get him on side? Particularly if
he's a productive awkward cuss.
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Yes it would be nice to have them all
just pick stuff off the to-do list but that isn't going to happen.
agree, agree, agree!
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more than
anything else--but I'd rather not only do that.
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I am tired of
incessant complaints and would much rather focus on getting things done.
The general idea trouhgout my posts is: solve the problems, I read
nothing else but problems and why does everyone new ask the same questions?
Eye's open and take criticism constructively!
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You accused me of lecturing you before, and you will probably take this
in the same vein, but I'll take a risk - after all, I am a management
consultant :-)
If you want to focus on getting things done you have to take care of the
complaints first and get people on-side who are not. The complaints are
part and parcel of the deal - its why management is not easy.
Sound the horns!
Steven P.
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