On Tue, January 10, 2006 20:18, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 22:37, DC Parris wrote:
>
>> On Tue, January 10, 2006 13:42, John McCreesh wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:41 -0500, DC Parris wrote:
>>>> Greetings!
>>>>
>>>> I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/
>>>> year in
>>>> R&D - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in R&D.  I
>>>> believe
>>>> it does.  Can the OOo team help me quantify what gets invested in
>>>> R&D?
>>>> I
>>>> am also contacting some other major projects, but would like to
>>>> get some
>>>> input from the folks at OOo.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>
>>> To compare like with like, you may need to look at developer manhours
>>> per annum generated by Microsoft compared to the open-source
>>> community...
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> Here's the general gist - which I have communicated to most of the
>> folks
>> I've contacted:
>>
>> The gist of my article is that R&D for GNU/Linux and FOSS has to be
>> considered on a different basis than Microsoft's approach.  As an
>> example,
>> Microsoft may well spend $50 billion/year in R&D.  Against the
>> backdrop of
>> what they distribute, it seems like they're throwing money away.
>> After
>> $50b, a WMF vulnerability puts 600 million users at risk.  On the FOSS
>> side of the house, no single company has a need to invest $50
>> billion/year
>> because they are essentially getting free R&D, and much of that goes
>> unaccounted for.
>
> I was with you at the beginning of that, Don, but I'm surprised to
> hear you saying "free R&D" given what you've written on LXer
> recently. It's not free/gratis. It costs every one of us time, many
> of us money as well. As the cost of the R & D is not bourne by a
> single entity, you're right that it's pointless to try to estimate a
> dollar value for it unless you also establish the exchange rate. But
> it's not free/gratis. Each community member invests according to
> their ability and goals, and they do so because they expect to see a
> return on that investment on their own terms and timescale.
>

Please forgive my poor choice of words.  I should have known better.  I do
hope everyone was able to grasp my real intentions.

Don
-- 
DC Parris
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