I'm also now even -1 against bulk-comment. You guys are trying to be
too sneaky/passive-aggressive/bypass consensus. I'm stopping this shit
right now in its tracks

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:50 AM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm -1 against auto-closing issues, as I already stated on this thread.
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:53 AM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
> >
> > Calm down :)
> >
> > As you can read from the last comment, we can choose whether to
> > * Close with comment and label
> > * Comment and label only
> > * Comment only
> > * Do nothing
> >
> > The lucene-solr repo is not dead, it will still be used for back-porting 
> > bugfixes to branch_8_11 for probably another 12 months.
> > Byt several branches are dead/archived, and it really makes no sense to 
> > keep PRs for those alive either.
> >
> > This is a proposal for a one-time action, introducing a stale-bot for the 
> > project, which I can see is more controversial and annoying for sure.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > > 8. des. 2021 kl. 13:04 skrev Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > i mean you dont even have anything close to fucking consensus about
> > > "bulk close" on this thread. most are against it. why be so fucking
> > > sneaky about it? I don't get it!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:03 AM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:01 AM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I added my vote against bulk close functionality.
> > >>> it is pretty clear from this thread that several of us are opposed to
> > >>> bulk close.
> > >>>
> > >>> somehow the discussion jumped from bulk commenting to bulk close. fuck 
> > >>> that!
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 5:39 AM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I gave it a shot, and it works, so with this change to githubPRs.py 
> > >>>> script: https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/pull/2625 we can close 
> > >>>> all open PRs with a comment and label with a single command. The 
> > >>>> script can also easily be adapted to other use cases.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> 8. des. 2021 kl. 01:33 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> +1 to bulk commenting on the 274 open PRs with a standard message 
> > >>>>> about the need for new PRs.
> > >>>>> We already have a "stale-closed" label in GitHub, so if we add that 
> > >>>>> label to all the issues they can safely be closed without information 
> > >>>>> loss.
> > >>>>> My script 
> > >>>>> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/dev-tools/scripts/githubPRs.py
> > >>>>>  can probably be tweaked to do these actions. It uses a python GitHub 
> > >>>>> library and already fetches all open PRs, and allows to pass a token, 
> > >>>>> so I guess that the token will also allow edits on behalf of the user.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2. des. 2021 kl. 17:55 skrev Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> In this specific instance, I don't see the harm in leaving these
> > >>>>>> issues there since the entire repo is essentially an archival 
> > >>>>>> artifact
> > >>>>>> at this point. If we actually want to notify people that "hey your
> > >>>>>> issue is in a dead zone, do you want to revive it? Here's how ..." we
> > >>>>>> could maybe generate some emails? Although I really have no idea how
> > >>>>>> we would accomplish that.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> In general, I'm in favor of cleaning up / closing issues that are
> > >>>>>> clearly not going to be worked.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> For example in JIRA we have so many old issues that they can clutter
> > >>>>>> up search results, making it much harder for new contributors
> > >>>>>> (especially) to find "interesting" issues that might be relevant 
> > >>>>>> today
> > >>>>>> and workable.  I have heard various arguments for keeping these old
> > >>>>>> issues: they represent an historical view of the project; "you never
> > >>>>>> know" maybe they become relevant again; and this idea of not annoying
> > >>>>>> people by arbitrarily closing their issue. These all have some
> > >>>>>> validity, but I we have to strike a balance. I wonder if we can
> > >>>>>> address them in another way. In JIRA can we keep these old issues
> > >>>>>> while hiding them from default searches. Can we "archive" old issues
> > >>>>>> in some way? Maybe there is a "Status" like Archived that is 
> > >>>>>> different
> > >>>>>> from Closed. Anything but Open!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:15 PM Mike Drob <md...@mdrob.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I understand the frustrations around closing somebody’s PR as 
> > >>>>>>> stale, but I also think that there is value in informing the 
> > >>>>>>> contributors I this is never getting solved/fixed/looked at, if 
> > >>>>>>> this is still important please go over there instead.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:55 PM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> 
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:49 PM Michael McCandless
> > >>>>>>>> <luc...@mikemccandless.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Could we maybe instead bulk-add a comment explaining the split 
> > >>>>>>>>> and how to take the PR forwards if someone (in the future) has 
> > >>>>>>>>> itch/time?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I know we humans love to clean things up, but I think leaving 
> > >>>>>>>>> such "unclean" things open serves an important purpose.  They all 
> > >>>>>>>>> had importance to at least one person at one point in time, and 
> > >>>>>>>>> likely many of them are still relevant if they piqued someones 
> > >>>>>>>>> curiosity to dig back into them.  Closing them makes them harder 
> > >>>>>>>>> to find for the future developer.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I'm sure some of them are already resolved/duplicates too.  If 
> > >>>>>>>>> only we could divine which are which.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> +1, I'd rather not auto-close PRs. I'm always frustrated by this 
> > >>>>>>>> when
> > >>>>>>>> I see it in other trackers. Is there a rush to close these for some
> > >>>>>>>> reason?
> > >>>>>>>>
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