Jan,

I agree strongly with your last point. And in case you haven't seen it
before, there is a solr k8s operator, with a growing community, under
development at https://github.com/bloomberg/solr-operator.

I agree that taking control of the solr docker images could be a good idea.
That way, it could have larger involvement from the community and grow more
organically with changes in Solr itself.

- Houston

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 8:25 PM Noble Paul <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why even "cluster mode" or "cloud mode"?
>
> Solr, by default , should use the cluster mode. So in all our
> documentation, we should use just "Solr" and it should refer to a
> "cluster mode of Solr"
>
> Wherever we don't have a "cluster mode" should be explicitly qualified
> as "standalone Solr"
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:24 PM David Smiley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I hear you and sympathize but "SolrCloud" has been used long enough that
> I doubt the trouble is worth it.  I guess that makes me "+0".  That said, I
> think it wouldn't hurt to formalize "standalone mode" as-such and perhaps
> say more explicitly that SolrCloud == "cluster mode" even if we don't
> eliminate SolrCloud terminology.
> >
> > And as SolrCloud ... errr... "cluster mode" I mean, gains in usage
> relative to "standalone mode", perhaps we can reference SolrCloud less
> often and sorta assume that and instead make exceptions in documentation to
> standalone mode specifics where we call that out as such.  It's a loose
> idea; I'm don't have an example in mind.
> >
> > Similar to the above notion, maybe "CloudSolrClient" could be more
> invisible without renaming it.  Imagine SolrClient.createFromZooKeeper()
> etc. static methods that instantiate CloudSolrClient by default.  Just a
> thought.
> >
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:19 AM Shawn Heisey <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/30/2019 6:59 AM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote:
> >> > I propose that we rename SolrCloud mode to "cluster mode" such that
> >> > there shall be "Apache Solr", running in either "standalone mode" or
> >> > "cluster mode". We can effect this renaming 9.0 onwards, if we have
> >> > consensus.
> >> >
> >> > I am open to any other proposal as well, so long as we drop the
> "cloud"
> >> > in the name.
> >>
> >> I see your point, but I think that "cloud" is so entrenched in the
> >> overall consciousness of the software that changing it will not be easy.
> >>
> >> Maybe it might be something we could accomplish slowly, over the rest of
> >> 8.0's lifetime and the entire 9.0 lifetime.  Begin changing the
> >> terminology we use in communication, start shifting documentation and
> >> code, with a hard cutover in a later major version, perhaps 10.0 or
> 11.0.
> >>
> >> The level of effort involved would be considerable, whether it happens
> >> quickly or slowly.  It might be the kind of thing we just don't want to
> >> try and do.
> >>
> >> I'm not opposed to the idea, and I might even be able to help, but it's
> >> going to need a lot of buy-in from those of us who work on Solr.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Shawn
> >>
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