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Mikhail Khludnev updated SOLR-10144:
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    Description: 
This is a placeholder for new block join design. Let's comeup with the name 
first: -whether- it will be nested-, child docs or blocks?- 
h2. Feature Delivery plan
h3. Naming
Nested Documents

h3. Scopes in schema.xml 
# fields can be grouped with {{<scope name="parent" default="true">}};
# it can be _any_ level deep, and fan out _any_ subscopes ({{name}} necessary 
for distinguishing {{sons}}, {{daugthers}} subscopes);
# (?) I'm not sure whether {{name}} is uniq or traverse path is unique. _I'd 
like the former_;
# btw, maybe  {{type}} (?) ;
# {{default}} attribute is necessary to map existing blocks, which has only one 
nesting dimension: {{childrenDocuments}};      
# fields beside of scopes (_global_) can appear on any scope. it should work 
with uniqueKey (!);
# coming to roots (?) how many root scopes we can have? _I think we can have a 
few ones that introducing notion of document types._ 

h3. Updates
# All formats XML, JSON, JSONdoc, Javabin accept nesting in named scopes;
# Current format (unnamed nesting) is supported by {{default}} marked scope;
# field are accepted only if they are defined at the certain scope, beside of 
the _global_ ones.

h3. Default experience 
*# submitting {{q=\*:\*&fl=\*}} responds root documents with all children from 
all subscopes nested in according to the scopes hierarchy. i.e. \[child] is 
*on* by default
*# {{fq=}} aims root docs

h3. Query
# let's follow -Elastic- JSON.facet idea, and piggyback on its' request parsing 
facilities;   
# this query should contains of nested query nodes, every node represent 
\{!parser param=baram v='input'};
# this syntax should have handy defaluts/shortcut, to search {{foo:bar}} in 
less than fifteen brackets,quotes and commas;
# it should use existing QParsers including \{!func} ;
# searching scopes is supported by _named scope_ QParser, handled in this 
syntax by regular way;
# subscope query should be easily hooked in any occur (should, must, not )  ;
# it should be available in a dedicated \[transformer], and support the 
following scenarios: search parents by certain children, return them nested in 
response _without repeating query_, do the same but return all children of 
selected parents   ;
# naming standalone nodes and referencing them is cool.    

h3. Update/deletes/uniqueness/versioning
# delete query/id hits root docs, and also nukes subordinate children;
# updating existing root doc completely removes existing subdocs, and replace 
all of them with the new ones ;
# field update fully rewrites whole doc hierarchy, and can aim any subdoc in 
hierarchy (this won't be easy, how to identify children?)
# (!) unique id value should span whole block (?) oh'really?? _it seems like we 
can avoid it_ 
# (?) do we need to identify separate subdocs with id? probably _yes_ for field 
updates  
# _version_ should span whole block (_If I've got the recent SOLR-10114 right_) 

h3. Faceting
# subject for support by Json.facet

h3. Named scopes support in DIH
# _Old sport_, you know.

h2. Inception
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  was:
This is a placeholder for new block join design. Let's comeup with the name 
first: whether it will be nested, child docs or blocks? 
h2. Feature Delivery plan
h3. Naming
Nested Documents

h3. Scopes in schema.xml 
*# fields can be grouped with {{<scope name="parent" default="true">}}
*# it can be _any_ level deep, and fan out _any_ subscopes (they are necessary 
for distinguishing {{sons}}, {{daugthers}})
*# (?) I'm not sure whether {{name}} is uniq or traverse path is unique. btw, 
maybe  {{type}} (?).   
*# {{default}} attribute is necessary to map existing blocks, which has only 
single nesting dimension: {{childrenDocuments}}      
*# fields beside of scopes (_global_) can appear on any scope
*# coming to roots (?) how many root scopes we can have? I think we can have a 
few ones that introducing notion of document types. 

h3. Updates
*# All formats XML, JSON, JSONdoc, Javabin accept nesting in named scopes. 
*# Current format (unnamed nesting) is supported by {{default}} marked scope.
*# field are accepted only if they are defined at the certain scope, beside of 
the _global_ ones

h3. Default experience 
*# submitting {{q=*:*&fl=*}} responds root documents with all children from all 
subscopes nested in according to the scopes hierarchy. i.e. \[child] is *on* by 
default
*# {{fq=}} aims root docs

h3. Query
*# let's follow -Elastic- JSON.facet idea, and piggyback on its' request 
parsing facilities   
*# this query should contains of nested nodes, every node represent \{!parser 
param=baram v='input'}
*# this syntax should have handy defaluts/shortcut, to search {{foo:bar}} in 
less than fifteen brackets,quotes and commas
*# it should use existing QParsers including \{!func} 
*# searching scopes is supported by _named scope_ QParser, handled in this 
syntax by regular way
*# subscope query should be easily hooked in any occur (should, must, not )  
*# it should be available in a dedicated \[transformer], and support the 
following scenarios: search parents by certain children, return them nested in 
response _without repeating query_, do the same but return all children of 
selected parents   
*# naming separate nodes and named references is cool    

h3. Update/deletes/uniqueness/versioning
*# delete query/id hits root docs, and also nukes subordinate children
*# updating existing root doc completely removes existing subdocs, and replace 
all of them with the new one 
*# field update fully rewrites whole doc hierarchy, and can aim any subdoc in 
hierarchy (this won't be easy, how to identify children?)
*# (!) unique id value should span whole block (?) oh'really?? _it seems like 
we can avoid it_ 
*# (?) do we need to identify separate subdocs with id? probably _yes_ for 
field updates  
*# _version_ should span whole block (_If I've got the recent SOLR-10114 
right_) 

h3. Faceting
subject for support by Json.facet

h3. Named scopes support in DIH
_Old sport_, you know.

h2. Inception
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> redesign block-join support
> ---------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-10144
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10144
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>      Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public) 
>          Components: query parsers, update
>         Environment: Java. https://wiki.apache.org/solr/HowToContribute
>            Reporter: Mikhail Khludnev
>              Labels: gsoc2017, java
>
> This is a placeholder for new block join design. Let's comeup with the name 
> first: -whether- it will be nested-, child docs or blocks?- 
> h2. Feature Delivery plan
> h3. Naming
> Nested Documents
> h3. Scopes in schema.xml 
> # fields can be grouped with {{<scope name="parent" default="true">}};
> # it can be _any_ level deep, and fan out _any_ subscopes ({{name}} necessary 
> for distinguishing {{sons}}, {{daugthers}} subscopes);
> # (?) I'm not sure whether {{name}} is uniq or traverse path is unique. _I'd 
> like the former_;
> # btw, maybe  {{type}} (?) ;
> # {{default}} attribute is necessary to map existing blocks, which has only 
> one nesting dimension: {{childrenDocuments}};      
> # fields beside of scopes (_global_) can appear on any scope. it should work 
> with uniqueKey (!);
> # coming to roots (?) how many root scopes we can have? _I think we can have 
> a few ones that introducing notion of document types._ 
> h3. Updates
> # All formats XML, JSON, JSONdoc, Javabin accept nesting in named scopes;
> # Current format (unnamed nesting) is supported by {{default}} marked scope;
> # field are accepted only if they are defined at the certain scope, beside of 
> the _global_ ones.
> h3. Default experience 
> *# submitting {{q=\*:\*&fl=\*}} responds root documents with all children 
> from all subscopes nested in according to the scopes hierarchy. i.e. \[child] 
> is *on* by default
> *# {{fq=}} aims root docs
> h3. Query
> # let's follow -Elastic- JSON.facet idea, and piggyback on its' request 
> parsing facilities;   
> # this query should contains of nested query nodes, every node represent 
> \{!parser param=baram v='input'};
> # this syntax should have handy defaluts/shortcut, to search {{foo:bar}} in 
> less than fifteen brackets,quotes and commas;
> # it should use existing QParsers including \{!func} ;
> # searching scopes is supported by _named scope_ QParser, handled in this 
> syntax by regular way;
> # subscope query should be easily hooked in any occur (should, must, not )  ;
> # it should be available in a dedicated \[transformer], and support the 
> following scenarios: search parents by certain children, return them nested 
> in response _without repeating query_, do the same but return all children of 
> selected parents   ;
> # naming standalone nodes and referencing them is cool.    
> h3. Update/deletes/uniqueness/versioning
> # delete query/id hits root docs, and also nukes subordinate children;
> # updating existing root doc completely removes existing subdocs, and replace 
> all of them with the new ones ;
> # field update fully rewrites whole doc hierarchy, and can aim any subdoc in 
> hierarchy (this won't be easy, how to identify children?)
> # (!) unique id value should span whole block (?) oh'really?? _it seems like 
> we can avoid it_ 
> # (?) do we need to identify separate subdocs with id? probably _yes_ for 
> field updates  
> # _version_ should span whole block (_If I've got the recent SOLR-10114 
> right_) 
> h3. Faceting
> # subject for support by Json.facet
> h3. Named scopes support in DIH
> # _Old sport_, you know.
> h2. Inception
> [comment|https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7674?focusedCommentId=15855698&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15855698]
>  and [the next 
> one|https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7674?focusedCommentId=15855708&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15855708]



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