+1

A nice way of doing it would be to make it part of the SolrResourceLoader 
interface.  The ZK resource loader could check in the collection-specific 
zknode first, and then under configs/, and we could add a writeResource() 
method that writes to the collection-specific node as well.  Then all config 
I/O goes via the resource loader, and we have a way of keeping certain parts 
immutable.

On 15 May 2015, at 17:39, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree about differentiating the mutable part (configoverlay, generated 
> schema, etc) and the immutable (the configset) , but I think it would be 
> better if the mutable part is placed under /collections/x/..., otherwise 
> "/configs" would have a mix of ConfigSets and collection-specific 
> configuration. 
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Noble Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think this needs more discussion
> 
> When a collection is created we should have two things
> 
> an immutable part and a mutable part
> 
> for instance my collection name is "x" and it uses schemaless example conf
> 
> I must now have two conf dirs 
> 
> configs/schemaless and 
> configs/x
> 
> all the mutable stuff goes to configs/x
> 
> and config/schemaless remains immutable
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think this is fine.I don't think we need a new concept of "config 
> templates", we just need to make it clear that the configset used to create 
> the collection is not modified by Solr, and that any change done via API only 
> affects the single collection where the config command is issued. 
> 
> I guess the schema API should start using something like configoverlay, or 
> maybe persist the updated schema to this new path?
> 
> Tomás
> 
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Noble Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with you on the point that it causes confusion.
> 
> My suggestion would be to have something called "config templates" and they 
> are immutable . So , we don't need a configset API
> each collection have it's own conf folder .
> 
> So, when a collection is created we should go ahead and create a 
> corresponding conf dir.
> 
> Ideally, it should not copy over all configs from it's template. It should 
> just store the configoverlay.json, params.json in the collection's conf 
> directory and inherit the rest from the template
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> I think the concept of ConfigSets has become a bit confusing with the Config 
> APIs (I'm thinking in SolrCloud mode here). Solr requires that a configset is 
> pushed to ZooKeeper before creating a collection that uses it. It supports 
> multiple collections using the same configset, which I think is great. You 
> could also have a couple of configsets that no collection is currently using 
> (who knows, maybe one that was recently deprecated, or that will be used 
> soon, etc). This gives me the idea that configsets are a separate entity than 
> the collection, not just a collection's configuration.
> 
> Config APIs allow you to operate on a collection to add handlers, change 
> settings, etc. The problem is that you are not really applying the changes to 
> the collection but to the complete configset. All collections using it will 
> get the changes, and all of them will be reloaded after a change.
> 
> Shouldn't those APIs be at a different level/outside the collection? Maybe a 
> configset API? Or, maybe the configs (for example, the configoverlay.json) 
> should only apply to the collection where the API call was made and not to 
> other collections using the configset?
> 
> Tomás
> 
> 
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