Hi,
Pinging the list for the feedbacks of this KIP-491
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120736982)
Thanks,
George
On Saturday, July 13, 2019, 08:43:25 PM PDT, George Li
<sql_consult...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
Hi,
I have created KIP-491
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120736982)
for putting a broker to the preferred leader blacklist or deprioritized list so
when determining leadership, it's moved to the lowest priority for some of the
listed use-cases.
Please provide your comments/feedbacks.
Thanks,
George
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Jose Armando Garcia Sancio commented on KAFKA-8638:
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Thanks for feedback and clear use cases [~sql_consulting].
> Preferred Leader Blacklist (deprioritized list)
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Key: KAFKA-8638
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-8638
> Project: Kafka
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: config, controller, core
> Affects Versions: 1.1.1, 2.3.0, 2.2.1
> Reporter: GEORGE LI
> Assignee: GEORGE LI
> Priority: Major
>
> Currently, the kafka preferred leader election will pick the broker_id in the
> topic/partition replica assignments in a priority order when the broker is in
> ISR. The preferred leader is the broker id in the first position of replica.
> There are use-cases that, even the first broker in the replica assignment is
> in ISR, there is a need for it to be moved to the end of ordering (lowest
> priority) when deciding leadership during preferred leader election.
> Let’s use topic/partition replica (1,2,3) as an example. 1 is the preferred
> leader. When preferred leadership is run, it will pick 1 as the leader if
> it's ISR, if 1 is not online and in ISR, then pick 2, if 2 is not in ISR,
> then pick 3 as the leader. There are use cases that, even 1 is in ISR, we
> would like it to be moved to the end of ordering (lowest priority) when
> deciding leadership during preferred leader election. Below is a list of use
> cases:
> * (If broker_id 1 is a swapped failed host and brought up with last segments
> or latest offset without historical data (There is another effort on this),
> it's better for it to not serve leadership till it's caught-up.
> * The cross-data center cluster has AWS instances which have less computing
> power than the on-prem bare metal machines. We could put the AWS broker_ids
> in Preferred Leader Blacklist, so on-prem brokers can be elected leaders,
> without changing the reassignments ordering of the replicas.
> * If the broker_id 1 is constantly losing leadership after some time:
> "Flapping". we would want to exclude 1 to be a leader unless all other
> brokers of this topic/partition are offline. The “Flapping” effect was seen
> in the past when 2 or more brokers were bad, when they lost leadership
> constantly/quickly, the sets of partition replicas they belong to will see
> leadership constantly changing. The ultimate solution is to swap these bad
> hosts. But for quick mitigation, we can also put the bad hosts in the
> Preferred Leader Blacklist to move the priority of its being elected as
> leaders to the lowest.
> * If the controller is busy serving an extra load of metadata requests and
> other tasks. we would like to put the controller's leaders to other brokers
> to lower its CPU load. currently bouncing to lose leadership would not work
> for Controller, because after the bounce, the controller fails over to
> another broker.
> * Avoid bouncing broker in order to lose its leadership: it would be good if
> we have a way to specify which broker should be excluded from serving
> traffic/leadership (without changing the replica assignment ordering by
> reassignments, even though that's quick), and run preferred leader election.
> A bouncing broker will cause temporary URP, and sometimes other issues. Also
> a bouncing of broker (e.g. broker_id 1) can temporarily lose all its
> leadership, but if another broker (e.g. broker_id 2) fails or gets bounced,
> some of its leaderships will likely failover to broker_id 1 on a replica with
> 3 brokers. If broker_id 1 is in the blacklist, then in such a scenario even
> broker_id 2 offline, the 3rd broker can take leadership.
> The current work-around of the above is to change the topic/partition's
> replica reassignments to move the broker_id 1 from the first position to the
> last position and run preferred leader election. e.g. (1, 2, 3) => (2, 3, 1).
> This changes the replica reassignments, and we need to keep track of the
> original one and restore if things change (e.g. controller fails over to
> another broker, the swapped empty broker caught up). That’s a rather tedious
> task.
>
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