Sorry that I was not clear. Yes, I was suggesting the state-specific counts
were in addition to the simple task count you originally proposed. Thanks
for taking my suggestion into account -- the updated KIP looks great.

Thanks for contributing this improvement, Cyrus!

Best regards,

Randall

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:35 PM Cyrus Vafadari <cy...@confluent.io> wrote:

> Randall,
>
> I've updated the KIP to include all of your recommendations!
>
> Cyrus
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 2:55 PM Cyrus Vafadari <cy...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> > Randall,
> >
> > I plan to update the public details section and the performance impact as
> > you recommended.
> >
> > Regarding state-specific counts, I do agree this is a useful addition.
> > Before I make the change, I'd like to agree that these state-specific
> > counts should be in addition to the already-proposed total tasks count
> > (even though might be redundant, it is robust against new/missed
> connector
> > states, and is a useful metric in its own right), yes?
> >
> > Cyrus
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:24 PM Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, Cyrus -- this will be quite useful. I do have a few
> >> comments/requests.
> >>
> >> Can you please be more specific about the public details about the
> metric?
> >> What is the MBean name on which the metric will appear? For example, the
> >> AK
> >> documentation (
> https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/#connect_monitoring
> >> )
> >> defines all of the metrics an where they will appear, as does
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-196%3A+Add+metrics+to+Kafka+Connect+framework
> >> .
> >>
> >> Secondly, while a metric showing the total number of tasks is very
> useful,
> >> might it be worth considering also adding metrics for the number of
> >> running
> >> tasks, the number of paused tasks, and the number of failed tasks for a
> >> connector. It might require using the herder's `connectorStatus(String
> >> connectorName)` method instead, but that appears to be just as effective
> >> at
> >> using the local snapshot of the status store cache.
> >>
> >> Thirdly, it might be useful for the KIP to address the potential
> >> performance impact of computing these methods. Again, IIUC, the herder
> >> methods that the proposal mentions use the status and config stores
> caches
> >> only, so the impact should be negligible.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Randall
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 10:05 PM Ryanne Dolan <ryannedo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Cyrus, I agree this would be useful.
> >> >
> >> > Ryanne
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, May 31, 2019, 7:10 PM Oleksandr Diachenko <
> >> odiache...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 2019/05/30 06:06:12, Cyrus Vafadari <cy...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >> > > > Hello Dev,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'd like to start the discussion of KIP-475: New Metric to Measure
> >> > Number
> >> > > > of Tasks on a Connector.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-475%3A+New+Metric+to+Measure+Number+of+Tasks+on+a+Connector
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The proposal is pretty straightforward -- to add a new metric to
> >> > Connect
> >> > > to
> >> > > > measure the number of tasks on a Connector. Currently, we support
> >> this
> >> > on
> >> > > > Worker level, so this KIP just adds another metric to support this
> >> > > > per-connector.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There is also a PR:
> >> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/6843
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cyrus
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Cyrus,
> >> > >
> >> > > That sounds like a useful addition.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards, Alex.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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