In process of implementation of this KIP we discussed with John Roesler and 
Matthias J. Sax two additional changes:

1. Changes in KafkaStream#close semantics [1] :

        * reject negative numbers
        * make 0 just signal and return immediately (after checking the state 
once)

2. Default implementations of `fetch` methods in WindowStore [2]

This changes added to KIP [3]

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/6d16879c0ffc4b52a544a8664329d09101832964
[2] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5759
[3] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-358%3A+Migrate+Streams+API+to+Duration+instead+of+long+ms+times



В Ср, 10/10/2018 в 01:16 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> Hello, John
> 
> I responded in discussion thread.
> 
> I'm +1 for your proposal.
> 
> В Вт, 09/10/2018 в 13:05 -0500, John Roesler пишет:
> > Hi Nikolay,
> > 
> > I have a proposal to improve the compatibility around your KIP... Do you
> > mind taking a look?
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5759#issuecomment-428242210
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > -John
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:44 PM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello, John.
> > > 
> > > Tests in my PR is green now.
> > > Please, do the review.
> > > 
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5682
> > > 
> > > В Пн, 24/09/2018 в 20:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > Hello, John.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you.
> > > > 
> > > > There are failing tests in my PR.
> > > > I'm fixing them wright now.
> > > > 
> > > > Will mail you in a next few hours, after all tests become green again.
> > > > 
> > > > В Пн, 24/09/2018 в 11:46 -0500, John Roesler пишет:
> > > > > Hi Nikolay,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the PR. I will review it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -John
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 2:36 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've opened a PR [1] for this KIP.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5682
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John, can you take a look?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > В Пн, 17/09/2018 в 20:16 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > John,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Got it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Will do my best to meet this deadline.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > В Пн, 17/09/2018 в 11:52 -0500, John Roesler пишет:
> > > > > > > > Yay! Thanks so much for sticking with this Nikolay.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I look forward to your PR!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Not to put pressure on you, but just to let you know, the
> > > 
> > > deadline for
> > > > > > > > getting your pr *merged* for 2.1 is _October 1st_,
> > > > > > > > so you basically have 2 weeks to send the PR, have the reviews,
> > > 
> > > and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > get it
> > > > > > > > merged.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > (see
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=91554044)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > > > > -John
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:29 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > 
> > > nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This KIP is now accepted with:
> > > > > > > > > - 3 binding +1
> > > > > > > > > - 2 non binding +1
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thanks, all.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Especially, John, Matthias, Guozhang, Bill, Damian!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > В Чт, 13/09/2018 в 22:16 -0700, Guozhang Wang пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > +1 (binding), thank you Nikolay!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Guozhang
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Matthias J. Sax <
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > matth...@confluent.io>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > +1 (binding)
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > -Matthias
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On 9/5/18 8:52 AM, John Roesler wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:33 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear commiters.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, vote on a KIP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > В Пт, 31/08/2018 в 12:05 -0500, John Roesler пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Nikolay,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can start a PR any time, but we cannot per it
> > > 
> > > (and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > won't
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > serious reviews) until after the KIP is voted and
> > > 
> > > approved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people start a PR during discussion just
> > > 
> > > to help
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > provide more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > context, but it's not required (and can also be
> > > 
> > > distracting
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > because the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > KIP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion should avoid implementation details).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's wait one more day for any other comments and
> > > 
> > > plan to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Monday if there are no other debates.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you start the vote, you have to leave it up for
> > > 
> > > at
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > least 72
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > hours,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it requires 3 binding votes to pass. Only Kafka
> > > 
> > > Committers
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > binding
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > votes (https://kafka.apache.org/committers).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:09 AM Bill Bejeck <
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > bbej...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Nickolay,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Bill
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:59 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, John.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my first KIP, so, please, help me with
> > > 
> > > kafka
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > development
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I start to work on PR now? Or should I
> > > 
> > > wait for
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "+1" from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commiters?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Пт, 31/08/2018 в 10:33 -0500, John Roesler
> > > 
> > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. I guess that once we are in the
> > > 
> > > PR-reviewing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > phase,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > we'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better position to see what else can/should be
> > > 
> > > done,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > we can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > talk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow-on work at that time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:19 AM Nikolay
> > > 
> > > Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Bill
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the "Proposed Changes" section, there
> > > 
> > > is "Try
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > reduce the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibility of methods in next tickets" does
> > > 
> > > that
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > eventual
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and removal?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Some methods will become deprecated. I
> > > 
> > > think
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > removed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the future.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find list of deprecated methods in
> > > 
> > > KIP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Some internal methods can't be deprecated
> > > 
> > > or
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hid from
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > user for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to say that we should research
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > possibility
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > to reduce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibility of *internal* methods that are
> > > 
> > > *public*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That kind of changes is out of the scope of
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > current KIP,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > so we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in the next tickets.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect that internal methods will be
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > removed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Чт, 30/08/2018 в 18:59 -0400, Bill Bejeck
> > > 
> > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for chiming in late, there was a lot
> > > 
> > > of
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > detail
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > to catch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall I'm +1 in the KIP.  But I do have
> > > 
> > > one
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > question
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KIP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards to Matthias's comments about
> > > 
> > > defining
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > dual use.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the "Proposed Changes" section, there
> > > 
> > > is "Try
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > reduce the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibility
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of methods in next tickets" does that mean
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > eventual
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecation and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removal?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought we were aiming to keep the dual
> > > 
> > > use
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > methods?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Or does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imply
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll strive for more clear delineation
> > > 
> > > between
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > DSL and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > internal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:59 PM Nikolay
> > > 
> > > Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John, thank you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've updated KIP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear commiters, please take a look and
> > > 
> > > share
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > opinion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Чт, 30/08/2018 в 14:58 -0500, John
> > > 
> > > Roesler
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh! I missed one minor thing:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > UnlimitedWindows
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > need to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grace
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (it currently does not either).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise, it looks good to me!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:30 AM 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, John.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've updated KIP according on your
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, take a look.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are we ready to vot now?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 29/08/2018 в 14:51 -0500, John
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Roesler
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Nikolay, sorry for the
> > > 
> > > silence. I'm
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > taking
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KIP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before voting...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    1. I think the Window
> > > 
> > > constructor
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > actually be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protected. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    know if we need a constructor
> > > 
> > > that
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > takes
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Instant,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do add
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one, it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    should definitely be protected.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    2. `long JoinWindows#size()` is
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > overridden
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > `long
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows#size()`,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    and should not be deprecated.
> > > 
> > > Also, I
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > think we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `Duration
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    JoinWindows#windowSize()`.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    3. Likewise,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > `JoinWindows#windowsFor()` is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > overridden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    `Windows#windowsFor()` and
> > > 
> > > should
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > also not
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    need a `Map<Instant, Window>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > windowsForTime(final
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > timestamp)`
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    version.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    4. TimeWindowedDeserializer is
> > > 
> > > a bit
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > puzzle
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    looks like it's incorrectly
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > implemented!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'm not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sure if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want/need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    update any of its methods or
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > constructors.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    5. TimeWindows: see my feedback
> > > 
> > > on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > JoinWindows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    6. UnlimitedWindows: see my
> > > 
> > > feedback
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > JoinWindows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    7. ReadOnlyWindowStore: the
> > > 
> > > existing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > `long`
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > methods
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    deprecated. (we should add
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > `WindowStoreIterator<V>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fetch(K
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > key,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    timeFrom, long timeTo)` to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > WindowStore)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    8. SessionBytesStoreSupplier:
> > > 
> > > Both of
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > methods
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "internal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    methods", so we should just
> > > 
> > > leave them
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > alone and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not add
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    9. SessionStore: I don't think
> > > 
> > > these
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "external
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > use"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > methods
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    ReadOnlySessionStore is used in
> > > 
> > > IQ)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > we should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    10. Stores: I think we can just
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > deprecate
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replacement
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > method
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    that takes `segmentInterval`.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    11. WindowBytesStoreSupplier: I
> > > 
> > > think
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > interface is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "internal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    use" and can be left alone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the very clear KIP
> > > 
> > > that
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > makes
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general, to justify some of those
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > comments,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > easier to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > add
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > methods later on than to remove
> > > 
> > > them, so
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > erring on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding new variants when they show
> > > 
> > > up in
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > DSL
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > code, not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worrying
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower-level APIs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:14 AM
> > > 
> > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, All.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling a vote on KIP-358 [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 358%3A+Migrate+Streams+API+to+Duration+instead+of+long+ms+times
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 

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