Hi Paolo,

The delete records KIP was voted and implemented before the AdminClient
KIP. It couldn't use something that didn't exist. :)

Regarding which part to take, I would say it depends on the contributor.
Both moving the tool to `tools` and removing the ZK dependency are
valuable. If someone is willing to do both, that's great. In cases where
removing the ZK dependency is a small change when compared to moving the
tool to `tools`, then we would accept contributions that do the former as
well. If it's a large change either way, we'd prefer to do both at the same
time.

Ismael

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Paolo Patierno <ppatie...@live.com> wrote:

> Hi devs and committers,
>
> I'd like to raise a point about Kafka tools and Admin Client API in order
> to have a sort of agreement on the path we should follow for having
> consistency in the project.
>
> We all know that the bigger part of tools is in Scala with only few of
> them in Java. At same time more of them are still using Zookeeper and few
> of them are using Admin Client API (even because it's quite new and
> evolving release by release).
>
>
> My initial understanding was that the community (at least the committers)
> would like to have tools migrated in Java (something like already happened
> for clients) and using the new Admin Client API.
>
> This was the path I was trying to follow with TopicCommand tool then I
> noticed that ...
>
>
> A new delete records tool was added (the PR was merged) and it was written
> in Scala, adding the new protocol commands for doing that to the "legacy"
> Admin client (for this I opened the KIP-204<https://cwiki.apache.
> org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-204+%3A+Adding+records+
> deletion+operation+to+the+new+Admin+Client+API> for having it in the new
> Admin Client API). So, to summarize, new tool ... no Java ... no new Admin
> Client API usage.
>
>
> What I see is that there is a real "mix" : Scala tools using "legacy"
> Admin Client, Scala tools using new Admin Client API, few Java tools just
> using consumer/producer clients, ...
>
>
> In the past, during this discussion<https://www.mail-
> archive.com/dev@kafka.apache.org/msg78014.html>, the final idea was
> having the bash script layer using different tools (Scala or Java) based on
> Zookeeper parameter usage.
>
>
> I'd like to know the opinion about the final objective and the path to
> follow around tools. Maybe the final objective should be having all tools
> in Java using Admin Client API but maybe during this path having a smooth
> migration just using new Admin Client API in the current Scala tools first
> (removing Zookeeper calls) could be better. Maybe for committers, in order
> to review and merge PRs, little ones are better ...
>
>
> What do you think about this ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Paolo Patierno
> Senior Software Engineer (IoT) @ Red Hat
> Microsoft MVP on Azure & IoT
> Microsoft Azure Advisor
>
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