By the way, in-kernel TLS has now landed in the Linux kernel:

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/networking/tls.txt

There is work in progress to take advantage of that in OpenSSL:

https://github.com/Mellanox/tls-openssl

Ismael


On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Todd Palino <tpal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, that's why I mentioned it with a caveat :) Someone (I can't recall
> who, but it was someone I consider reasonably knowledgable as I actually
> gave it some weight) mentioned it, but I haven't looked into it further
> than that. I agree that I don't see how this is going to help us at the app
> layer.
>
> -Todd
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Todd,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your experience enabling TLS in your clusters. Very
> > helpful. One comment below.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Todd Palino <tpal...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Right now, we're specifically avoiding moving consume traffic to SSL,
> due
> > > to the zero copy send issue. Now I've been told (but I have not
> > > investigated) that OpenSSL can solve this. It would probably be a good
> > use
> > > of time to look into that further.
> > >
> >
> > As far as I know, OpenSSL can reduce the TLS overhead, but we will still
> > lose the zero-copy optimisation. There is some attempts at making it
> > possible to retain zero-copy with TLS in the kernel[1][2], but it's
> > probably too early for us to consider that for Kafka.
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/666509/
> > [2]
> > http://techblog.netflix.com/2016/08/protecting-netflix-
> > viewing-privacy-at.html
> >
>
>
> --
> *Todd Palino*
> Staff Site Reliability Engineer
> Data Infrastructure Streaming
>
>
>
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>

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