> Got it, thanks.
>
> Does it still make sense to have one static constructors for each spec,
> with one constructor having only one parameter to make it more usable, i.e.
> as a user I do not need to give all parameters if I only want to override
> one of them? Maybe we can just name the constructors as `with` but I'm not
> sure if Java distinguish:
>
> public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> with(final Serde<K> keySerde)
> public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> with(final Serde<V> valueSerde)
>
> as two function signatures.
>
>
No that won't work. That is why we have all options, i.e., on Produce
public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> with(final Serde<K> keySerde,
final Serde<V>
valueSerde)
public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> with(final StreamPartitioner<K, V>
partitioner, final Serde<K> keySerde, final Serde<V> valueSerde)
public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> keySerde(final Serde<K> keySerde)
public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> valueSerde(final Serde<V> valueSerde)
public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> streamPartitioner(final
StreamPartitioner<K,
V> partitioner)

So if you only want to use one you can just use the function that takes one
argument.

>
> Guozhang
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 at 20:11 Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Damian,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the proposal, I had a few comments on the APIs:
> > >
> > > 1. Printed#withFile seems not needed, as users should always spec if it
> > is
> > > to sysOut or to File at the beginning. In addition as a second
> thought, I
> > > think serdes are not useful for prints anyways since we assume
> `toString`
> > > is provided except for byte arrays, in which we will special handle it.
> > >
> > >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > > Another comment about Printed in general is it differs with other
> options
> > > that it is a required option than optional one, since it includes
> > toSysOut
> > > / toFile specs; what are the pros and cons for including these two in
> the
> > > option and hence make it a required option than leaving them at the API
> > > layer and make Printed as optional for mapper / label only?
> > >
> > >
> > It isn't required as we will still have the no-arg print() which will
> just
> > go to sysout as it does now.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 2.1 KStream#through / to
> > >
> > > We should have an overloaded function without Produced?
> > >
> >
> > Yes - we already have those so they are not part of the KIP, i.e,
> > through(topic)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 2.2 KStream#groupBy / groupByKey
> > >
> > > We should have an overloaded function without Serialized?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, as above
> >
> > >
> > > 2.3 KGroupedStream#count / reduce / aggregate
> > >
> > > We should have an overloaded function without Materialized?
> > >
> >
> > As above
> >
> > >
> > > 2.4 KStream#join
> > >
> > > We should have an overloaded function without Joined?
> > >
> >
> > as above
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2.5 Each of KTable's operators:
> > >
> > > We should have an overloaded function without Produced / Serialized /
> > > Materialized?
> > >
> > >
> > as above
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3.1 Produced: the static functions have overlaps, which seems not
> > > necessary. I'd suggest jut having the following three static with
> another
> > > three similar member functions:
> > >
> > > public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> withKeySerde(final Serde<K>
> keySerde)
> > >
> > > public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> withValueSerde(final Serde<V>
> > > valueSerde)
> > >
> > > public static <K, V> Produced<K, V> withStreamPartitioner(final
> > > StreamPartitioner<K, V> partitioner)
> > >
> > > The key idea is that by using the same function name string for static
> > > constructor and member functions, users do not need to remember what
> are
> > > the differences but can call these functions with any ordering they
> want,
> > > and later calls on the same spec will win over early calls.
> > >
> > >
> > That would be great if java supported it, but it doesn't. You can't have
> > static an member functions with the same signature.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 3.2 Serialized: similarly
> > >
> > > public static <K, V> Serialized<K, V> withKeySerde(final Serde<K>
> > keySerde)
> > >
> > > public static <K, V> Serialized<K, V> withValueSerde(final Serde<V>
> > > valueSerde)
> > >
> > > public Serialized<K, V> withKeySerde(final Serde<K> keySerde)
> > >
> > > public Serialized<K, V> withValueSerde(final Serde valueSerde)
> > >
> >
> > as above
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Also it has a final Serde<V> otherValueSerde in one of its static
> > > constructor, it that intentional?
> > >
> >
> > Nope: thanks.
> >
> > >
> > > 3.3. Joined: similarly, keep the static constructor signatures the same
> > as
> > > its corresponding member fields.
> > >
> > >
> > As above
> >
> >
> > > 3.4 Materialized: it is a bit special, and I think we can keep its
> static
> > > constructors with only two `as` as they are today.K
> > >
> > >
> > 4. Is there any modifications on StateStoreSupplier? Is it replaced by
> > > BytesStoreSupplier? Seems some more descriptions are lacking here. Also
> > in
> > >
> > >
> > No modifications to StateStoreSupplier. It is superseceded by
> > BytesStoreSupplier.
> >
> >
> >
> > > public static <K, V, S extends StateStore> Materialized<K, V, S>
> > > as(final StateStoreSupplier<S>
> > > supplier)
> > >
> > > Is the parameter in type of BytesStoreSupplier?
> > >
> >
> > Yep - thanks
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Guozhang
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Updated link:
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > > 182%3A+Reduce+Streams+DSL+overloads+and+allow+easier+
> > > > use+of+custom+storage+engines
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Damian
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 at 13:09 Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've put together a KIP to make some changes to the KafkaStreams
> DSL
> > > that
> > > > > will hopefully allow us to:
> > > > > 1) reduce the explosion of overloads
> > > > > 2) add new features without having to continue adding more
> overloads
> > > > > 3) provide simpler ways for people to use custom storage engines
> and
> > > wrap
> > > > > them with logging, caching etc if desired
> > > > > 4) enable per-operator caching rather than global caching without
> > > having
> > > > > to resort to supplying a StateStoreSupplier when you just want to
> > turn
> > > > > caching off.
> > > > >
> > > > > The KIP is here:
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > action?pageId=73631309
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Damian
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Guozhang
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>

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