I like this KIP in general and I agree it’s needed. Perhaps Damian can comment 
on the session store issue?

Thanks
Eno
> On May 6, 2017, at 10:32 PM, Michal Borowiecki 
> <michal.borowie...@openbet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Agreed. I tried your proposal and indeed it would work.
> 
> However, I think to maintain full backward compatibility we would also need 
> to deprecate Stores.create() and leave it unchanged, while providing a new 
> method that returns the more strongly typed Factories.
> 
> ( This is because PersistentWindowFactory and PersistentSessionFactory cannot 
> extend the existing PersistentKeyValueFactory interface, since their build() 
> methods will be returning TypedStateStoreSupplier<WindowStore<K, V>> and 
> TypedStateStoreSupplier<SessionStore<K, V>> respectively, which are NOT 
> subclasses of TypedStateStoreSupplier<KeyValueStore<K, V>>. I do not see 
> another way around it. Admittedly, my type covariance skills are rudimentary. 
> Does anyone see a better way around this? )
> 
> Since create() takes only the store name as argument, and I don't see what we 
> could overload it with, the new method would need to have a different name. 
> 
> Alternatively, since create(String) is the only method in Stores, we could 
> deprecate the entire class and provide a new one. That would be my 
> preference. Any ideas what to call it?
> 
> 
> 
> All comments and suggestions appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michał
> 
> 
> On 04/05/17 21:48, Matthias J. Sax wrote:
>> I had a quick look into this.
>> 
>> With regard to backward compatibility, I think it would be required do
>> introduce a new type `TypesStateStoreSupplier` (that extends
>> `StateStoreSupplier`) and to overload all methods that take a
>> `StateStoreSupplier` that accept the new type instead of the current one.
>> 
>> This would allow `.build` to return a `TypedStateStoreSupplier` and
>> thus, would not break any code. As least if I did not miss anything with
>> regard to some magic of type inference using generics (I am not an
>> expert in this field).
>> 
>> 
>> -Matthias
>> 
>> On 5/4/17 11:32 AM, Matthias J. Sax wrote:
>>> Did not have time to have a look. But backward compatibility is a must
>>> from my point of view.
>>> 
>>> -Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/4/17 12:56 AM, Michal Borowiecki wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I've updated the KIP with missing information.
>>>> 
>>>> I would especially appreciate some comments on the compatibility aspects
>>>> of this as the proposed change is not fully backwards-compatible.
>>>> 
>>>> In the absence of comments I shall call for a vote in the next few days.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Michal
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/04/17 23:11, Michal Borowiecki wrote:
>>>>> Hi community!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just drafted KIP-147: Add missing type parameters to
>>>>> StateStoreSupplier factories and KGroupedStream/Table methods
>>>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69408481>
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69408481>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know if this a step in the right direction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All comments welcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Michal
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