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Jun Yao commented on KAFKA-4385:
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[~ewencp]  is it possible to have some server side support to have better 
definition of what is retriable and what is not retriable? 
right now this seems to that client just keep retrying on some cases that is 
not actually needed. 

> producer is sending too many unnecessary meta data request if the meta data 
> for a topic is not available and "auto.create.topics.enable" =false
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>
>                 Key: KAFKA-4385
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-4385
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: 0.9.0.1
>            Reporter: Jun Yao
>
> All current kafka-client producer implementation (<= 0.10.1.0),
> When sending a msg to a topic, it will first check if meta data for this 
> topic is available or not, 
> when not available, it will set "metadata.requestUpdate()" and wait for meta 
> data from brokers, 
> The thing is inside "org.apache.kafka.clients.Metadata.awaitUpdate()", it's 
> already doing a "while (this.version <= lastVersion)" loop waiting for new 
> version response, 
> So the loop inside 
> "org.apache.kafka.clients.producer.KafkaProducer.waitOnMetadata() is not 
> needed, 
> When "auto.create.topics.enable" is false, sending msgs to a non-exist topic 
> will trigger too many meta requests, everytime a metadata response is 
> returned, because it does not contain the metadata for the topic, it's going 
> to try again until TimeoutException is thrown; 
> This is a waste and sometimes causes too much overhead when unexpected msgs 
> are arrived. 



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