Sorry for the late question but is there a reason to choose SHA-1 and
SHA-256 instead of bcrypt?

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 5:30 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
rajinisiva...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I think all the comments and suggestions on this thread have now been
> incorporated into the KIP. If there are no objections, I will start the
> voting process on Monday.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajini
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> rajinisiva...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Jun,
> >
> > Have added a sub-section on delegation token support to the KIP.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Rajini
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Rajini,
> >>
> >> That makes sense. Could you document this potential future extension in
> >> the
> >> KIP?
> >>
> >> Jun
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> >> rajinisiva...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jun,
> >> >
> >> > 11. SCRAM messages have an optional extensions field which is a list
> of
> >> > key=value pairs. We can add an extension key to the first client
> >> message to
> >> > indicate delegation token. Broker can then obtain credentials and
> >> principal
> >> > using a different code path for delegation tokens.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Magnus,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for the input. If you don't feel strongly the need to bump up
> >> the
> >> > > version of SaslHandshake, we can leave the version unchanged.
> >> > >
> >> > > Rajini,
> >> > >
> >> > > 11. Yes, we could send the HMAC as the SCRAM password for the
> >> delegation
> >> > > token. Do we need something to indicate that this SCRAM token is
> >> special
> >> > > (i.e., delegation token) so that we can generate the correct
> >> > > KafkaPrincipal? The delegation token logic can be added later. I am
> >> > asking
> >> > > just so that we have enough in the design of SCRAM to add the
> >> delegation
> >> > > token logic later.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > >
> >> > > Jun
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> >> > > rajinisiva...@googlemail.com
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Jun,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 10. *s=<salt>* and *i=<iterations>* come from the SCRAM standard
> >> (they
> >> > > are
> >> > > > transferred during SCRAM auth). Scram messages look like (for
> >> example)
> >> > > > *r=<nonce>,s=<salt>,i=<iterations>*. StoredKey and ServerKey and
> >> not
> >> > > > transferred in SCRAM messages, so I picked two keys that are
> unused
> >> in
> >> > > > SCRAM.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 11. SCRAM (like DIGEST-MD5 or PLAIN) uses a shared secret/password
> >> for
> >> > > > authentication along with a username and an optional
> >> authorization-id.
> >> > > > Kafka uses the username as the identity (Kafka principal) for
> >> > > > authentication and authorization. KIP-48 doesn't mention
> >> KafkaPrincipal
> >> > > in
> >> > > > the section "Authentication using Token", but a delegation token
> is
> >> > > > associated with a Kafka principal. Since delegation tokens are
> >> acquired
> >> > > on
> >> > > > behalf of a KafkaPrincipal and the principal is included in the
> >> token
> >> > as
> >> > > > the token owner,  clients authenticating with delegation tokens
> >> could
> >> > use
> >> > > > the token owner as username and the token HMAC as shared
> >> > secret/password.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If necessary, any other form of token identifier may be used as
> >> > username
> >> > > as
> >> > > > well as long as it contains sufficient information for the broker
> to
> >> > > > retrieve/compute the principal and HMAC for authentication. The
> >> server
> >> > > > callback handler can be updated when delegation tokens are
> >> implemented
> >> > to
> >> > > > generate Kafka principal accordingly.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi, Rajini,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > A couple of other questions on the KIP.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 10. For the config values stored in ZK, are those keys (s, t, k,
> >> i,
> >> > > etc)
> >> > > > > stored under scram-sha-256 standard?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 11. Could KIP-48 (delegation token) use this KIP to send
> >> delegation
> >> > > > tokens?
> >> > > > > In KIP-48, the client sends a HMAC as the delegation token to
> the
> >> > > server.
> >> > > > > Not sure how this gets mapped to the username/password in this
> >> KIP.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jun
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> >> > > > > rajinisiva...@googlemail.com
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi all,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I have just created KIP-84 to add SCRAM-SHA-1 and
> SCRAM-SHA-256
> >> > SASL
> >> > > > > > mechanisms to Kafka:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> >> > > > > > 84%3A+Support+SASL+SCRAM+mechanisms
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Comments and suggestions are welcome.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thank you...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Rajini
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Rajini
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Rajini
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rajini
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Rajini
>

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