Guozhang,

I think the info is there. The next sentence says "The optimization is 
applicable to aggregations. It is not applicable to other operators like joins."
Also the bit about the per-thread cache is one paragraph lower: "Specifically, 
for a streams instance with T threads and cache size C, each thread will have 
an even C/T bytes of cache, to use as it sees fit among its tasks. No sharing 
of caches across threads will happen"

Thanks
Eno


> On 8 Sep 2016, at 18:51, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Just read the KIP wiki again:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-63%3A+Unify+store+and+downstream+caching+in+streams
> 
> Just one minor comments but otherwise I'm +1:
> 
> In "proposed changes" section: "The cache has two functions. First, it
> continues to serve as a read buffer for data that is sent to the state
> store, just like today. Second, it serves as a write deduplicator for the
> state store (just like today) as well as for the downstream processor
> node(s). "
> 
> I feel this is still a bit confusing. The caching layer is only turned on
> for state stores used in aggregate operators in the DSL, right? For example
> in KStream-KStream joins, we will not turn on caching since there is no
> updates on the state store on the same key.
> 
> So could we just propose "removing the caching layer inside the persistent
> state store engines (i.e. RocksDB), and instead add a per-thread global
> cache which will only be activated for state stores used in Streams DSL's
> aggregate operator as a write deduplicator for both the state store and to
> the downstream operators"?
> 
> Guozhang
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Eno Thereska <eno.there...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> There have been a couple of changes to KIP-63 since the voting started,
>> after more feedback, most notably the fact that this KIP applies to the DSL
>> only, and not to the Processor API.
>> 
>> At this point I'd like to restart the voting process.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Eno
>> 
>>> On 31 Aug 2016, at 17:16, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1
>>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Eno Thereska <eno.there...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> We'd like to start the vote for KIP-63. At this point the Wiki addresses
>>>> all previous questions and we believe the PoC is feature-complete.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Eno
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -- Guozhang

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