Don't necessarily want to add noise here, but I'm -1 based on the
disconnect part. See discussion in other thread. (I'm +1 otherwise, and
happy to have my vote applied assuming we clean up that one issue.)

-Ewen

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Harsha <ka...@harsha.io> wrote:

> +1 (binding)
> Thanks,
> Harsha
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, at 04:15 PM, Guozhang Wang wrote:
> > +1.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 (binding)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Grant Henke <ghe...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like to initiate the voting process for the "KIP-4 Create
> Topics
> > > > Schema changes". This is not a vote for all of KIP-4, but
> specifically
> > > for
> > > > the create topics changes. I have included the exact changes below
> for
> > > > clarity:
> > > > >
> > > > > Create Topics Request (KAFKA-2945
> > > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2945>)
> > > > >
> > > > > CreateTopics Request (Version: 0) => [create_topic_requests]
> timeout
> > > > >   create_topic_requests => topic num_partitions replication_factor
> > > > [replica_assignment] [configs]
> > > > >     topic => STRING
> > > > >     num_partitions => INT32
> > > > >     replication_factor => INT16
> > > > >     replica_assignment => partition_id [replicas]
> > > > >       partition_id => INT32
> > > > >       replicas => INT32
> > > > >     configs => config_key config_value
> > > > >       config_key => STRING
> > > > >       config_value => STRING
> > > > >   timeout => INT32
> > > > >
> > > > > CreateTopicsRequest is a batch request to initiate topic creation
> with
> > > > > either predefined or automatic replica assignment and optionally
> topic
> > > > > configuration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Request semantics:
> > > > >
> > > > >    1. Must be sent to the controller broker
> > > > >    2. If there are multiple instructions for the same topic in one
> > > > >    request an InvalidRequestException will be logged on the broker
> and
> > > > the
> > > > >    client will be disconnected.
> > > > >       - This is because the list of topics is modeled server side
> as a
> > > > >       map with TopicName as the key
> > > > >    3. The principal must be authorized to the "Create" Operation
> on the
> > > > >    "Cluster" resource to create topics.
> > > > >       - Unauthorized requests will receive a
> > > > ClusterAuthorizationException
> > > > >    4.
> > > > >
> > > > >    Only one from ReplicaAssignment or (num_partitions +
> > > > replication_factor
> > > > >    ), can be defined in one instruction.
> > > > >    - If both parameters are specified an InvalidRequestException
> will
> > > be
> > > > >       logged on the broker and the client will be disconnected.
> > > > >       - In the case ReplicaAssignment is defined number of
> partitions
> > > and
> > > > >       replicas will be calculated from the supplied
> replica_assignment.
> > > > >       - In the case of defined (num_partitions +
> replication_factor)
> > > > >       replica assignment will be automatically generated by the
> server.
> > > > >       - One or the other must be defined. The existing broker side
> auto
> > > > >       create defaults will not be used
> > > > >       (default.replication.factor, num.partitions). The client
> > > > implementation can
> > > > >       have defaults for these options when generating the messages.
> > > > >       - The first replica in [replicas] is assumed to be the
> preferred
> > > > >       leader. This matches current behavior elsewhere.
> > > > >    5. Setting a timeout > 0 will allow the request to block until
> the
> > > > >    topic metadata is "complete" on the controller node.
> > > > >       - Complete means the local topic metadata cache been
> completely
> > > > >       populated and all partitions have leaders
> > > > >          - The topic metadata is updated when the controller sends
> out
> > > > >          update metadata requests to the brokers
> > > > >       - If a timeout error occurs, the topic could still be created
> > > > >       successfully at a later time. Its up to the client to query
> for
> > > > the state
> > > > >       at that point.
> > > > >    6. Setting a timeout <= 0 will validate arguments and trigger
> the
> > > > >    create topics and return immediately.
> > > > >       - This is essentially the fully asynchronous mode we have in
> the
> > > > >       Zookeeper tools today.
> > > > >       - The error code in the response will either contain an
> argument
> > > > >       validation exception or a timeout exception. If you receive a
> > > > timeout
> > > > >       exception, because you asked for 0 timeout, you can assume
> the
> > > > message was
> > > > >       valid and the topic creation was triggered.
> > > > >    7. The request is not transactional.
> > > > >       1. If an error occurs on one topic, the others could still be
> > > > >       created.
> > > > >       2. Errors are reported independently.
> > > > >
> > > > > QA:
> > > > >
> > > > >    - Why is CreateTopicsRequest a batch request?
> > > > >       - Scenarios where tools or admins want to create many topics
> > > should
> > > > >       be able to with fewer requests
> > > > >       - Example: MirrorMaker may want to create the topics
> downstream
> > > > >    - What happens if some topics error immediately? Will it
> > > > >    return immediately?
> > > > >       - The request will block until all topics have either been
> > > created,
> > > > >       errors, or the timeout has been hit
> > > > >       - There is no "short circuiting" where 1 error stops the
> other
> > > > >       topics from being created
> > > > >    - Why implement "partial blocking" instead of fully async or
> fully
> > > > >    consistent?
> > > > >       - See Cluster Consistent Blocking
> > > > >       <
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-4+-+Command+line+and+centralized+administrative+operations#KIP-4-Commandlineandcentralizedadministrativeoperations-cluster-consistent-blocking
> > > > >
> > > > >        below
> > > > >    - Why require the request to go to the controller?
> > > > >       - The controller is responsible for the cluster metadata and
> its
> > > > >       propagation
> > > > >       - See Request Forwarding
> > > > >       <
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-4+-+Command+line+and+centralized+administrative+operations#KIP-4-Commandlineandcentralizedadministrativeoperations-request
> > > > >
> > > > >        below
> > > > >
> > > > > Create Topics Response
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > CreateTopics Response (Version: 0) => [topic_error_codes]
> > > > >   topic_error_codes => topic error_code
> > > > >     topic => STRING
> > > > >     error_code => INT16
> > > > >
> > > > > CreateTopicsResponse contains a map between topic and topic
> creation
> > > > > result error code (see New Protocol Errors
> > > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-4+-+Command+line+and+centralized+administrative+operations#KIP-4-Commandlineandcentralizedadministrativeoperations-NewProtocolErrors
> > > > >
> > > > > ).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The KIP is available here for reference (linked to the Create Topics
> > > schema
> > > > section):
> > > > *
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-4+-+Command+line+and+centralized+administrative+operations#KIP-4-Commandlineandcentralizedadministrativeoperations-CreateTopicsRequest(KAFKA-2945)
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-4+-+Command+line+and+centralized+administrative+operations#KIP-4-Commandlineandcentralizedadministrativeoperations-CreateTopicsRequest(KAFKA-2945)
> > > > >*
> > > >
> > > > A pull request is available implementing the proposed changes here:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/1489
> > > >
> > > > Here is a link to the past discussion on the mailing list:
> > > > *
> > > >
> > >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1rfG6v1oixmZ&subj=+DISCUSS+KIP+4+Create+Topic+Schema
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1rfG6v1oixmZ&subj=+DISCUSS+KIP+4+Create+Topic+Schema
> > > > >*
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Grant
> > > > --
> > > > Grant Henke
> > > > Software Engineer | Cloudera
> > > > gr...@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke |
> linkedin.com/in/granthenke
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -- Guozhang
>



-- 
Thanks,
Ewen

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