Thanks Grant. I wonder if KIP-50 should just be done as part of this work.

Ismael

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Grant Henke <ghe...@cloudera.com> wrote:

> My work with KIP-4 found that many of the Scala classes used in the
> Authorizer interface are needed in the Clients package when adding the
> various ACL requests and responses. I also found that we don't have
> standard Exceptions defined for the authorizer interface. This means that
> when I add the Authorizer calls to the broker and wire protocols all
> exceptions will be reported as an "Unknown Error" back to the user via the
> wire protocol.
>
> I have written more about it on the KIP-4 wiki and created jiras to track
> those issues (See below). I think we should wrap up this KIP as is and
> tackle the Java/Exception changes as a part of those jiras/kips.
>
>    - KIP-4 "Follow Up Changes"
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-4+-+Command+line+and+centralized+administrative+operations#KIP-4-Commandlineandcentralizedadministrativeoperations-FollowUpChangesfollow-up-changes
> >
>    - KAFKA-3509 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3509>:
> Provide
>    an Authorizer interface using the Java client enumerator classes
>    - KAFKA-3507 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3507>: Define
>    standard exceptions for the Authorizer interface
>
> Thank you,
> Grant
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Jay Kreps <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> > Hey Ismael,
> >
> > Yeah I think this is a minor cleanliness thing. Since this is kind of a
> > power user interface I don't feel strongly either way.
> >
> > My motivation with Scala is just that we've tried to move to having the
> > public interfaces be Java, and as a group we definitely struggled a lot
> > with understanding and maintaining Scala compatibility in the older
> > clients.
> >
> > -Jay
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jay,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Jay Kreps <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Given that we're breaking compatibility anyway should we:
> > > >
> > >
> > > We are not breaking source compatibility since the new method has a
> > default
> > > implementation. I take it that you mean binary compatibility?
> > >
> > >
> > > > 1. Remove the get prefix on this method and the existing one which
> > > violate
> > > > our own code style guidelines (Oops! Kind of sad we went through the
> > > whole
> > > > KIP process and no one even flagged this)
> > > >
> > >
> > > I did flag this during the discussion and Ashish said he would change
> it
> > if
> > > other people felt that it should be changed.
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2. Move the interface out of scala to be a normal Java interface
> > > >
> > > > This breaks source compatibility but probably what we should have
> done
> > > > originally I suspect. Probably there are few enough implementations
> of
> > > this
> > > > that it is better to just rip the bandaid off.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Can you please explain the motivation? It did come up in previous
> > > discussions that some things like Operation and ResourceType should be
> in
> > > the clients library, but not Authorizer itself. Are we saying that any
> > > pluggable interface should be in Java so that users can implement it
> > > without including the Scala library?
> > >
> > > Grant, you originally suggested that some things would have to be in
> the
> > > Java side as well. Can you please elaborate on this?
> > >
> > > Ismael
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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> Grant Henke
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