Yeah. This gets us close to Ewen's feature-version suggestion, since we
need to version things that are not tied to specific Requests.

Gwen

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:

> An option would be to add a version for the handshake in the KIP-35
> response.
>
> Ismael
> On 4 Apr 2016 20:09, "Gwen Shapira" <g...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> > I think the challenge here is that even after KIP-35 clients will not
> know
> > whether the server supports new sasl mechanisms or not, so non-Java
> clients
> > will have to assume it is not supported (and will therefore lag behind on
> > features).
> >
> > I think this highlights a short-coming of KIP-35, and I'm wondering if
> > there are good ways to address this.
> >
> > Gwen
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >
> > > I think with KIP-43, the existing way of sasl handshake during
> connection
> > > still works. It's just that if you want to support non-GSSAPI, you will
> > > need a new sasl handshake implementation in the client. It's
> unfortunate
> > > that Protocol currently only covers the communication after the
> > connection
> > > is ready to use, but not during handshake. For now, we can probably
> just
> > > document this change during handshake since changing the implementation
> > is
> > > optional.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jun
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Kafka Team,
> > > >
> > > > As a practical test-case of KIP-35, I'd like to turn your attention
> to
> > > > KIP-43:
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-43
> > > >
> > > > KIP-43 makes an interesting modification to the protocol, but only
> > under
> > > > specific conditions:
> > > >
> > > > "*Client flow:*
> > > >
> > > >    1. If sasl.mechanism is not GSSAPI, send a packet with the
> mechanism
> > > >    name to the server. Otherwise go to Step 3.
> > > >       - Packet Format: | Version (Int16) | Mechanism (String) |
> > > >    2. Wait for response from the server. If the error code in the
> > > response
> > > >    is non-zero, indicating failure, report the error and fail
> > > > authentication.
> > > >    3. Perform SASL authentication with the configured client
> mechanism
> > > >
> > > > *Server flow:*
> > > >
> > > >    1. Wait for first authentication packet from client
> > > >    2. If this packet is a not valid mechanism request, go to Step 4
> and
> > > >    process this packet as the first GSSAPI client token
> > > >    3. If the client mechanism received in Step 2 is enabled in the
> > > broker,
> > > >    send a response with error code zero and start authentication
> using
> > > the
> > > >    specified mechanism. Otherwise, send an error response including
> the
> > > > list
> > > >    of enabled mechanisms and fail authentication.
> > > >    - Packet Format: | ErrorCode (Int16) | EnabledMechanisms
> > > > (ArrayOf(String))
> > > >       |
> > > >    4. Perform SASL authentication with the selected mechanism. If
> > > mechanism
> > > >    exchange was skipped, process the initial packet that was received
> > > from
> > > > the
> > > >    client first."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to know how this will be communicated to clients via
> > > > VersionRequest proposed in KIP-35 (mostly because Jun and I need to
> > > review
> > > > KIP-43 and we want to be sure we are not breaking the new protocol at
> > the
> > > > same time we introduce it)
> > > >
> > > > Do we:
> > > > 1. Bump protocol version of every single Request? Even though unless
> > you
> > > > are using a new sasl mechanism nothing changes?
> > > > 2. Ignore and not bump protocol? If so, how will clients know that
> new
> > > > sasl.mechanisms are supported?
> > > > 3. Something else?
> > > >
> > > > Gwen
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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