Hi  Andrew Schofield and All:

Sorry to trouble you !  It seems that the last mail is lost in the
community email group. I paste it here and resend it again.
BTW: I already started the vote here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/mkdm421nrdwc9z2qtsyom3xz25skdfmr
If you think it is ok without any concern for you. Can you help to vote?
Thanks a lot.

At the same time, any suggestions are welcome, and a vote does not mean the
discussion is closed.

The KIP Link:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1235%3A+Correct+the+default+min.insync.replicas+to+2+for+the+__remote_log_metadata+topic

the email content lost in the thread:
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*Hi Andrew:Thank you very much for joining the discussion and providing
your comments. I feel this KIP shouldn’t be very controversial since it
follows a standard practice and kafka already have internal topic practices
to reference. So I’m thinking of leaving the discussion open for another
week, and then we can probably start/continue the voting. This also exceeds
the one-month discussion period to ensure everyone has had a chance to see
it.Thanks again.  RegardsJian*
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jian fu <[email protected]> 于2025年12月3日周三 17:19写道:

> Hi Andrew:
>
> Thank you very much for joining the discussion and providing your
> comments. I feel this KIP shouldn’t be very controversial since it follows
> a standard practice and kafka already have internal topic practices to
> reference. So I’m thinking of leaving the discussion open for another week,
> and then we can probably start/continue the voting. This also exceeds the
> one-month discussion period to ensure everyone has had a chance to see it.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Regards
> Jian
>
> Andrew Schofield <[email protected]> 于2025年12月3日周三 01:46写道:
>
>> Hi Jian,
>> Thanks for the KIP. This looks like a sensible idea to improve the
>> default configuration for this topic.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>> > On 14 Nov 2025, at 05:27, jian fu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just bumping this thread for more discussion.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > jian fu <[email protected]> 于2025年11月5日周三 14:54写道:
>> >
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to start a discussion on KIP-1235, a small change to set
>> >> min.isr=2 for the __remote_log_metadata topic.
>> >>
>> >> KIP:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1235%3A+Correct+the+default+min.insync.replicas+to+2+for+the+__remote_log_metadata+topic
>> >>
>> >> Problem:
>> >>
>> >> Currently, __remote_log_metadata relies on the broker default for
>> min.isr
>> >> (typically 1).
>> >> With min.isr=1 and factor=3, acknowledged writes can be lost if the
>> leader
>> >> crashes before replication
>> >> completes, making remote data permanently unreachable.
>> >>
>> >> What's more, the similar topic: __transaction_state sets min.isr=2 via
>> >> transaction.state.log.min.isr.
>> >> We should provide the same durability for __remote_log_metadata.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Proposed Change:
>> >>
>> >> Add one new broker config: remote.log.metadata.topic.min.isr (default:
>> 2)
>> >>
>> >> When creating __remote_log_metadata, TopicBasedRemoteLogMetadataManager
>> >> will set
>> >> min.insync.replicas=2 at the topic level. The change only affects new
>> >> clusters enabling Tiered Storage. Existing topics are unchanged.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Looking forward to your feedback!
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Jian
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>
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