Rafał Sumisławski created KAFKA-18369: -----------------------------------------
Summary: State updater's `*-ratio` metrics are incorrect Key: KAFKA-18369 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18369 Project: Kafka Issue Type: Bug Components: streams Affects Versions: 3.8.1 Reporter: Rafał Sumisławski h2. Background {{DefaultStateUpdater}} defines {{idle-ratio}}, {{active-restore-ratio}}, {{standby-update-ratio}}, {{checkpoint-ratio}} metrics here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/streams/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/streams/processor/internals/DefaultStateUpdater.java#L1101-L1115 These metrics are averages, that are supposed to indicate "The fraction of time the thread spent on \{action}". But the metrics don't actually do that. h2. Issue Let me explain this with an example: For simplicity's sake, let's consider the following example involving just {{standby-update-ratio}}, {{checkpoint-ratio}} and ignoring the existence of the other two metrics. Let's say the thread did: * {{999}} iterations with {{standby-update}} taking {{1ms}} in each iteration and no {{checkpoint}} happening ({{0ms}}). * {{1}} iteration with {{standby-update}} taking {{1ms}} and {{checkpoint}} taking {{9000ms}} The thread spent {{10s}} working, of which it spent {{1s}} on {{standby-updates}} and {{9s}} on checkpoint, so the fraction of time it spent on checkpoint (checkpoint-ratio) is {{~0.001 (0.1%)}}. Or at least that is what the metrics will say. I would instead argue that it spent {{9s/10s == 0.9 == 90%}} on checkpoint. If you agree with my logic, then you agree that this metrics is incorrect. The problem is that the code computes a ratio for each iteration, and then averages those ratios out, producing a number devoid of statistical meaning or practical application. It ignores the fact that the one iteration that took {{9s}}, should have a much higher weight than those quick 1ms iterations. {{(999*(0ms/1ms) + 1*(9000ms/9001ms))/1000 ~= 0.001}} h2. Solution What we would like to see instead is either a ratio of average/total times, not an average of ratios. I don't think this can be easily realised within the existing metrics system. So instead, what I propose as a solution is to report {{duration-total}} and/or {{duration-rate}} (with the unit of seconds per second) metric for each of {{idle}}, {{active-restore}}, {{standby-restore}}, {{checkpoint}}. The observers of these metrics, when needed, could then derive the actual ratio of time spent on each operation for example as {{checkpoint-ratio = checkpoint-duration-rate / (idle-duration-rate + active-restore-duration-rate + standby-restore-duration-rate + checkpoint-duration-rate)}}. Or by performing an analogical calculation on deltas of the {{total}} metrics. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010)