Hi all,
I replied to the DISCUSS thread since I believe that we should keep this
thread for recasting our votes after the discussion.
Best,
Bruno
On 09.12.24 09:55, Sebastien Viale wrote:
Hello,
I have some concerns about the naming:
1.
continue() is not feasible because continue is a reserved keyword.
Therefore, I suggest using the following names:
* continueProcessing
* failProcessing
* retryProcessing
2.
ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse() is already used as the name of an enum in
ProductionExceptionHandler interface. This would require adding package names
to distinguish it.
To avoid confusion, I propose renaming it to:
* ProductionExceptionResponse
* DeserializationExceptionResponse
* ProcessingExceptionResponse
3.
I also propose nesting the class into the interface, as it is done for enums.
cheers !
Sébastien
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Thanks for raising this issue.
Passing in a mutable list as parameter, does not sound to be best
practice. Also, some handlers support RETRY option (and there is a Jira
ticket to maybe add RETRY to the other handlers, too), for which it does
not make sense to write anything into the DLQ.
Thus, I would recommend to deprecate the existing handler methods, and
add new ones with new name and different return type. The return type
would be a class, with static builder methods for each option, allowing
both "fail" and "continue" to accept a list of records for the DLQ.
Eg
public class ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse {
private ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse() { };
public static ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse continue();
public static ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse continue(List);
public static ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse fail();
public static ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse fail(List);
public static ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse retry();
// no overload which would accept a List for "retry"
}
It might be good to have overloads for "continue/fail" with zero
parameters to avoid the need to pass an empty list, what would be
annoying boilerplate code for the user.
We could rename the methods from `handle` to `handleError` (and
`handleSerializationError` for the second handler method of
`ProductionExceptionHandler#handleSerializationException`).
Thoughts?
-Matthias
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On 12/5/24 7:23 AM, Lucas Brutschy wrote:
Hi Sebastien,
I believe the new proposal has a similar problem (since fields in
interfaces are always static). Would you consider adding an overload
of `handle` instead that passes a collection of DLQ records that can
be mutated? That wouldn't be as clean as returning it in the return
value, but would be correct and easy to implement. Needs a good
Javadoc comment though!
Cheers,
Lucas
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 10:26 PM Sebastien Viale
<sebastien.vi...@michelin.com> wrote:
Hi all,
During the implementation of the KIP, we realized that the proposal adds some
mutable fields to enums:
- ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse from ProductionExceptionHandler
- DeserializationHandlerResponse from DeserializationExceptionHandler
- ProcessingHandlerResponse from ProcessingExceptionHandler
This is considered an anti-pattern.
To ensure a cleaner design, we decided to remove mutable fields and methods
from the enums and move them into their respective classes:
- ProductionExceptionHandler
- DeserializationExceptionHandler
- ProcessingExceptionHandler
We have updated the KIP accordingly and are now calling for a new vote to
maintain transparency.
Cheers,
Loïc, Damien, and Sébastien
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Thanks Bill, Bruno, Sophie, I’ll conclude the vote with your 3 binding votes.
Thank you everyone!
Damien
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On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 15:21, Bill Bejeck <bbej...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the KIP, this will be a great addition.
+1(binding)
Regards,
Bill
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:19 AM Bruno Cadonna <cado...@apache.org> wrote:
Thanks Loïc, Sebastien, and Damien,
+1 (binding)
Best,
Bruno
On 9/26/24 3:15 AM, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
+1 (binding)
thanks for the KIP guys!
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sebastien.vi...@michelin.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just a quick reminder that the vote for KIP-1034 is still open.
Thank you all for your participation!
Best regards,
Damien Sebastien and Loic
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Hi all,
We would like to start a vote for KIP-1034: Dead letter queue in Kafka
Streams<
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams><https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams>>
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The KIP is available on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams><https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1034%3A+Dead+letter+queue+in+Kafka+Streams>>
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If you have any suggestions or feedback, feel free to participate to the
discussion thread:
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Best regards,
Damien Sebastien and Loic
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