Hi Lianet / Jeff,

Thanks for review and suggestions.

LM4: At group level, the protocol field is from ModernGroup#protocolType. It’s 
a string.
The value is defined in different places like ShareGroup#PROTOCOL_TYPE and 
ConsumerProtocol#PROTOCOL_TYPE.
In KIP-1043 
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=305171038#KIP1043:Administrationofgroups-kafka-groups.sh>,
 the kafka-groups.sh also shows protocol like “classic” / “consumer” / “share”.
I agree it’s better to use a type like GroupProtocol enum, but I would like to 
align the format with kafka-groups.sh.
How about we use another Jira to add “SHARE” to GroupProtocol and change return 
type of ModernGroup#protocolType?

LM5 / JK1: Sorry, I misunderstood LM3, so I deleted —state in the title.
You’re correct. I would like to use `—describe —state —verbose` to show group 
level information.
For `—describe —verbose`, it will show output as same as `—describe —offsets 
—verbose`,
because `—describe` also shows output as same as `—describe —offsets`.

JK2: Yes, I only use consumer group in the sample output, but the classic group 
will use the same format as well.

Thanks,
PoAn

> On Nov 21, 2024, at 8:28 AM, Jeff Kim <jeffkb...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi PoAn,
> 
> Thanks for the KIP. I have some questions:
> 
> JK1: (Realized this is similar to LM5) On `--describe --verbose` proposed 
> changes - doesn't `--describe $group` default to printing the offsets? 
> Perhaps you're referring to the `--state` argument? Also, would that mean the 
> default `--describe $group --verbose` command would not print the added field 
> to `--offsets verbose` (leader-epoch) or would it?
> 
> JK2: Looking at ConsumerGroupCommand.java, the existing "ASSIGNMENT" column 
> under `--members --verbose` does group the topic partitions by topic but does 
> not prefix the grouping with the topic name like you're proposal: 
> "my_topic:0,1;new_topic:0,1". Should we do apply the same format for the 
> classic group as well?
> 
> 
> 
> On 2024/11/20 21:32:41 "Lianet M." wrote:
>> Hello PoAn, just of couple more minor comments:
>> 
>> LM4. Regarding the new “protocol” field added to MemberDescription. Should
>> we consider reusing the existing GroupProtocol enum instead of String?
>> (It’s the one we use from the consumer side to refer to the protocol in
>> use, just missing Share I notice).
>> 
>> LM5. Regarding the change to the output for kafka-consumer-groups, the
>> command shown does not include the —state option, but the output shows
>> state info (state, #members, epochs). I would guess that we want to modify
>> the output only when we describe a group with the —state —verbose option,
>> is my understanding right? If my understanding is right we’re just missing
>> adding the —state in the example, and the KIP does not introduce any
>> changes to the —describe —verbose option. (If not, it would mean a bigger
>> change to the output of —describe —verbose which I expect is not the
>> intention?)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Lianet
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 2:12 AM PoAn Yang <yangp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the review and suggestions.
>>> 
>>> CI0: Thanks for the reminder. Update validVersions in
>>> ConsumerGroupDescribeRequest to 0-1.
>>> 
>>> CI1: Yes, I use `ConsumerGroupMember#useClassicProtocol` to check whether
>>> a member in consumer group uses “classic” or “consumer” protocol.
>>> 
>>> CI2: Yes, a member in share group always uses “share” protocol.
>>> 
>>> CI3: Add a table to show meaning of “classic”, “consumer”, and “share”
>>> protocol.
>>> 
>>> BTW, the vote thread is in
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/rb25tf75tzf4c7jqqldlo5jh9w8chsq6.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> PoAn
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 11:46 AM, Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hi PoAn
>>>> 
>>>> CI0:  We have to bump the version of ConsumerGroupDescribeRequest as
>>> well, so server can distinguish the new and old behavior.
>>>> 
>>>> CI1: the type of new filed is string, so I guess you plan to use
>>> `ConsumerGroupMember#useClassicProtocol` [0] flag to return either
>>> "classic" or "consumer", right?
>>>> 
>>>> CI2: `MemberDescription` is used by `ShareGroupDescription` too, so the
>>> new filed protocol in shared group is always "shared", right?
>>>> 
>>>> CI3: Could you consider adding a table to show the value of the protocol
>>> field in each case? Andrew has a beautiful table in KIP-1043 that lists all
>>> possible protocol names.
>>>> 
>>>> [0]
>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/441a6d0b790f4a17b454caeea7588a6b90fbd9db/group-coordinator/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/coordinator/group/modern/consumer/ConsumerGroupMember.java#L454
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Chia-Ping
>>>> 
>>>> On 2024/11/19 15:45:16 PoAn Yang wrote:
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the reminder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> DJ4: Add related content to the KIP.
>>>>> Bump validVersions in ConsumerGroupDescribeResponse to “0-1”.
>>>>> Add a new field “Protocol” to ConsumerGroupDescribeResponse.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> PoAn
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2024, at 3:57 PM, David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi PoAn,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> DJ4: Could you please also include the required changes to the
>>>>>> ConsumerGroupDescribed API in the public interface section? We
>>> basically
>>>>>> need to bump the version, add the new field, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 5:40 AM PoAn Yang <yangp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> DJ4: Add a new field protocol to MemberDescription,
>>>>>>> so the command line tool can show protocol information when users
>>> describe
>>>>>>> members.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If there is no further suggestion, I will start a vote thread today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> PoAn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2024, at 11:50 PM, David Jacot
>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DJ2: Using "-" sounds good to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DJ3: That seems reasonable to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DJ4: Why not add it right now? I don't want to change the output of
>>> the
>>>>>>>> tool too many times.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 3:23 PM PoAn Yang <yangp...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi David / Andrew,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for review. Thanks Andrew for picking up
>>> kafka-share-groups.sh
>>>>>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>>>>> I will handle kafka-consumer-groups.sh.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> DJ3: After discussing with @Chia-Ping Tsai, we think that using new
>>>>>>> format
>>>>>>>>> is more clear.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The new format will be like
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> <topic-name1>:<partition-id1>,<partition-id2>;<topic-name2>:<partition-id1>,<partition-id2>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Using colon(:) to concat topic name and partition IDs.
>>>>>>>>> Using comma(,) to concat partition IDs within same topic name.
>>>>>>>>> Using semicolon(;) to concat topic strings.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AS3: Fix it with kafka-share-groups.sh. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If there is no further suggestion, I will start a vote thread next
>>>>>>> Monday.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> PoAn
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2024, at 9:05 PM, Andrew Schofield <
>>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn,
>>>>>>>>>> DJ2: I was just going to comment that "-" would be a more
>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>>> missing value, but
>>>>>>>>>> you got there first.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> AS3: The examples for kafka-share-groups.sh include
>>>>>>>>> kafka-consumer-groups.sh in the
>>>>>>>>>> command line.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If this is accepted in time, I'm happy to pick up the
>>> implementation of
>>>>>>>>> the share groups
>>>>>>>>>> part of this if it helps.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: Frank Yang <yangp...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 14 November 2024 10:48
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-1099: Extend kafka-consumer-groups
>>> command
>>>>>>>>> line tool to support new consumer group
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the review and suggestion! I would like to get this in
>>> AK
>>>>>>> 4.0
>>>>>>>>> as well. I will do my best.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> DJ1: Update KIP to put GROUP-EPOCH and TARGET-ASSIGNMENT-EPOCH
>>> before
>>>>>>>>> #MEMBERS.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> DJ2: I prefer to follow current missing column value “-“.
>>> (reference <
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/18199028a672fd973ac37bf26316994babc2a6da/tools/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/tools/consumer/group/ConsumerGroupCommand.java#L92
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> DJ3: Update KIP to use CURRENT-EPOCH CURRENT-ASSIGNMENT
>>> TARGET-EPOCH
>>>>>>>>> TARGET-ASSIGNMENT.
>>>>>>>>>> Remove GROUP-EPOCH.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For assignment value, it follows current output (reference <
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/18199028a672fd973ac37bf26316994babc2a6da/tools/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/tools/consumer/group/ConsumerGroupCommand.java#L413-L418
>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>> I think the form of `topicid-partitionid` is more clear.
>>>>>>>>>> If we would like to use this form, I will update both output in
>>>>>>>>> kafka-consumer-groups.sh and kafka-share-groups.sh.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> DJ4: It looks like DescribeGroupsResponseData only has protocol
>>> type at
>>>>>>>>> group level.
>>>>>>>>>> Both DescribeGroupsResponseData and
>>> ConsumerGroupDescribeResponseData
>>>>>>>>> don’t have protocol at member level.
>>>>>>>>>> Could we use a followup to add it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> DJ5: Update KIP to put LEADER-EPOCH before CURRENT-OFFSET.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> PoAn
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2024, at 3:43 PM, David Jacot
>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the KIP! I have a few minor comments/suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ1: In the output of `--describe --verbose`, I would suggest
>>> putting
>>>>>>>>>>> `GROUP-EPOCH` and `TARGET-ASSIGNMENT-EPOCH` before `#MEMBERS`.
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ2: Continuing on the above, I assume that we will print out N/A
>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> fields not supported by classic groups. Is this correct?
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ3: In the output of `--describe --members --verbose`, I wonder
>>> if we
>>>>>>>>>>> should use the following order and terms: CURRENT-EPOCH
>>>>>>>>> CURRENT-ASSIGNMENT
>>>>>>>>>>> TARGET-EPOCH TARGET-ASSIGNMENT . I would remove the GROUP-EPOCH
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> is already in the group description. The value `(0)` used for the
>>>>>>>>>>> assignment is incorrect. Here I suppose that we will print out the
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> partitions in the form of `topicid-partitionid`.
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ4: Continuing on the above, I wonder if we should also add the
>>>>>>>>> protocol
>>>>>>>>>>> used `classic` or `consumer`. For context, it is possible to have
>>>>>>>>> `classic`
>>>>>>>>>>> members and `consumer` members in a `consumer` group during an
>>> online
>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade from the classic protocol to the consumer protocol. Having
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> information may be handy for administrators. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ5: In the output of `--describe --offsets --verbose`, I would
>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>> putting `LEADER-EPOCH` closer to `CURRENT-OFFSET`.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if we could get this one in AK 4.0 as it
>>> changes the
>>>>>>>>>>> output of the command.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 7:40 AM Frank Yang <yangp...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean / Andrew / Lianet,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your review and suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AS1, LM1, LM4: Change to add KIP-848 information when users give
>>>>>>>>> —verbose
>>>>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>>>>> —describe —verbose: shows group epoch and target assignment
>>> epoch.
>>>>>>>>>>>> —describe —members —verbose: shows above information, member
>>> epoch,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> target assignment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AS2: Change to use MEMBER-EPOCH to align with KIP-848 definition.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> LM2: For classic group, it doesn’t have epoch, so I use Optional
>>>>>>>>> fields in
>>>>>>>>>>>> ConsumerGroupDescription.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For share group, it relies on KIP-848. It must have epoch, so I
>>> use
>>>>>>> int
>>>>>>>>>>>> fields in ShareGroupDescription.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> LM3: Remove —state change. We can get group level information by
>>>>>>>>> —describe
>>>>>>>>>>>> —verbose.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> SQ1: Add LEADER-EPOCH when users give —describe —offsets
>>> —verbose.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> PoAn
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2024, at 5:08 AM, Lianet M. <liane...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Frank, thanks for the KIP! A few comments:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LM1. I strongly agree with Andrew's suggestion of moving this
>>> into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --verbose option. I expect someone would only attempt to make
>>> sense
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> epochs while debugging an issue, not while trying to view the
>>> group
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> member's info. (Also member-epoch makes more sense to me, even
>>> more
>>>>>>>>> if we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up agreeing in a --verbose). Related to both issues, my
>>> take is
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoever is close to the protocol will expect member-epoch,
>>> whoever
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will probably won't even need to see the epochs at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LM2. Why are the epochs defined as Optional (don't we expect to
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? with 0 initially, defined on the broker side for the group
>>>>>>> ones,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> client side for the member)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LM3. Why is the KIP including the –state option in the proposed
>>>>>>>>> changes?
>>>>>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=327977411#KIP1099:Extendkafkaconsumergroupscommandlinetooltosupportnewconsumergroup---state
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get that the output would change in that example, but it’s not
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any change to the –state option itself. It's because of the
>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the –described (required with the --state), and the changes
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --describe are already explained above (seems confusing, got me
>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a change to the state filter which seemed unrelated).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LM4. Group epoch and target assignment epoch are conceptually
>>> at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> level. vs member epoch that lands at a member level. So wonder
>>> if we
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show them accordingly (ex. using the --verbose option)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> –describe –verbose => shows group epoch and target assignment
>>> epoch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          –describe –members –verbose => shows member epoch
>>> (along
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with group epoch and target assignment epoch)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:30 AM Andrew Schofield <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the KIP. I have a few comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS1: It seems to me that these new additions are most useful to
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the progress of rebalancing in quite some detail. The
>>> information
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really not understandable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for most users who do not have deep knowledge of KIP-848/932.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a result, I suggest for kafka-share-groups.sh that you add a
>>>>>>>>>>>> --members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --verbose option
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and only include the new information in the output for that
>>> option,
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than changing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-verbose --members output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also make a similar suggestion for kafka-consumer-groups.sh
>>>>>>>>> --members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and only add the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information for the --verbose output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS2: I strongly suggest that you use MEMBER-EPOCH instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONSUMER-EPOCH.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's more confusing not following the terminology of
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> KIPs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one thing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we already have "member" in the admin client such as
>>>>>>>>> MemberDescription.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new term.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: PoAn Yang <pay...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 25 October 2024 13:55
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-1099: Extend kafka-consumer-groups
>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool to support new consumer group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lucas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the review!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Yes, I add related change for kafka-share-groups.sh to the
>>> KIP.
>>>>>>>>> Could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you take a look? Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) We use CONSUMER-ID as member ID. If we use MEMBER-EPOCH
>>> here,
>>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confuse what is different between CONSUMER and MEMBER.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PoAn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/23 13:28:17 Lucas Brutschy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the KIP!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) For consistency, should we do the same for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-share-groups.sh, ShareGroupDescription, etc. ? Even if
>>> we do
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implement it right now if the share group implementation may
>>> still
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incomplete, it may make sense to include it in the KIP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Why call it CONSUMER-EPOCH, not MEMBER-EPOCH? That would
>>> seem
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 2:41 PM Frank Yang <
>>> yangp...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to kick off the discussion of KIP-1099. This KIP
>>>>>>>>> enhances
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-consumer-groups tools to include state which is
>>> introduced
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-848.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1099: Extend kafka-consumer-groups command line tool to
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumer group - Apache Kafka - Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1099%3A+Extend+kafka-consumer-groups+command+line+tool+to+support+new+consumer+group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cwiki.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1099%3A+Extend+kafka-consumer-groups+command+line+tool+to+support+new+consumer+group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: favicon.ico]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1099%3A+Extend+kafka-consumer-groups+command+line+tool+to+support+new+consumer+group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1099%3A+Extend+kafka-consumer-groups+command+line+tool+to+support+new+consumer+group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PoAn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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