Hi!

Thank you!
The problematic command is possibly in use in bitnami kafka ( I do not know
)? The problem came when we used it & the problem was analyzed only with
it.
Bitnami kafka is not used anymore, but Apache Kafka is used directly
instead, nowadays. So, the argument can be given in a better way, now.

This topic/problem is more clear now.

Best Regards
Sam



ti 22. lokak. 2024 klo 18.54 Colin McCabe (cmcc...@apache.org) kirjoitti:

> Hi Samuli,
>
> Cluster ID is allowed to start with a hyphen. But you must pass it to the
> kafka-storage format command line like this:
>
> > kafka-storage.sh format --cluster-id=$MY_CLUSTER_ID ...
>
> Note the equals sign.
>
> We didn't want people to have to deal with this, which is why we made
> generate-uuid not create cluster IDs that started with a hyphen.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2024, at 06:44, Samuli Ruohola wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Thank you for the Apache Kafka! We are grateful for it.
> >
> > In our root cause analysis process discussions, we were asked to share
> > following piece of information to the Apache Kafka community.
> >
> > Following is a known topic, in generic, it seems, already. E.g. there are
> > existing tickets, and Uuid.java implementation already handles the
> > "problem", in one way.
> >
> > Following was still asked to be raised up.
> >
> > Kafka cluster ID does not work exactly as it is defined in documentation
> of
> > Apache Kafka.
> > ( Those are not exactly in sync. )
> > Regarding location of one character.
> >
> > In the documentation of Apache Kafka, hyphen, "-" is allowed to be in the
> > beginning, according to the exact definition and regexp:
> >
> > https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/
> >
> > Quotation:
> >
> > "The cluster id ... the allowed characters are defined by the regular
> > expression [a-zA-Z0-9_\-]+".
> >
> > According to that, hyphen, "-", is allowed to be in the beginning of the
> > value of cluster ID. But that is incorrect.
> >
> > In reality, the Apache Kafka instance / cluster does not start up with
> > hyphen "-" in the beginning of the value of the cluster ID.
> >
> > The problem: kafka-storage could not parse command line argument (
> cluster
> > ID ).
> > There comes an error: "argument --cluster-id/-t: expected one argument"
> >
> >
> > More:
> >
> > It seems to be a known issue in Apache kafka. Because there exists
> > following source codes / function:
> >
> > ...
> >      * This will not generate a UUID equal to 0, 1, or one whose string
> > representation starts with a dash ("-")
> >      */
> >     public static Uuid randomUuid() {
> >         Uuid uuid = unsafeRandomUuid();
> >         while (RESERVED.contains(uuid) ||
> uuid.toString().*startsWith*("*-*"))
> > {
> >             uuid = unsafeRandomUuid();
> >         }
> >         return uuid;
> >     }
> >     }
> >
> > https://fossies.org/dox/kafka-3.8.0-src/Uuid_8java_source.html
> >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/clients/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/common/Uuid.java
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-13741
> >
> > An other older ticket related to UUID / cluster ID starting with
> "hyphen":
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15754
> >
> >
> > We generated/generate the cluster ID in our own function. And that caused
> > trouble.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Sam
>

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