Hello folks,

I believe this KIP is finalized and ready for a vote.
If there are no further discussions, I will proceed with filing a vote
soon.
Best regards,
TengYao

TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> 於 2024年8月5日 週一 下午10:57寫道:

> Hello folks,
> I think we have reached a consensus, and we can now see if there are any
> other suggestions.
>
> Best,
> TengYao
>
> Andrew Schofield <andrew_schofi...@live.com> 於 2024年8月5日 週一 下午10:46寫道:
>
>> Hi,
>> I’m happy to go with Chia-Ping’s position here. I’m just aware that this
>> option is already entirely broken. Either way, it’s a very small point
>> and it can
>> certainly remain until its final removal in AK 5.0.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>> > On 5 Aug 2024, at 14:29, TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Andrew, Chia-Ping
>> >
>> > Thanks for the suggestions.
>> > Personally, I also want to remove this in 4.0 since it is not a
>> significant
>> > function.
>> > But as Chia-Ping mentioned, we seem to have a ‘1-year rule’ (or
>> convention)
>> > for removing code, so I intend to follow the convention rather than
>> being
>> > too aggressive.
>> > On the other hand, since this function doesn’t have much impact, maybe
>> > there’s a chance to ask Colin about his thoughts.
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > TengYao
>> >
>> > Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> 於 2024年8月5日 週一 下午7:24寫道:
>> >
>> >>> So, I am in favour of the KIP, but I suggest that it should actually
>> be
>> >> removed in 4.0
>> >>> rather than deprecated in 4.0 and then removed in 5.0 because it
>> already
>> >> doesn’t work.
>> >>
>> >> noted that removing it will introduce some broken behavior. For
>> >> example, the users who are using the config unintentionally will get
>> >> error "delete-config is not a recognized option"
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to delete it in 4.0, but we need to follow the depreciation
>> >> rules - remove it in major release and wait for 1-year
>> >>
>> >> There are some KIPs which don't wait for one year (see previous
>> >> discussion:
>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/bwqrsk341h0op662t1qhz781ld41lo5b),
>> >> but we agree they are exceptions.
>> >>
>> >> If this KIP-1079 can be considered to be another exception, it must be
>> >> included by 3.9.0. However, we should not merge KIP-1079 into 3.9
>> >> unless Colin agrees.
>> >>
>> >> In short, the config is not critical and we try to follow a "complete"
>> >> deprecation cycle. Hence, it should be deprecated in 4.0 and be
>> >> removed in 5.0
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Chia-Ping
>>
>>
>>

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