Hi all,

I've moved the optional and follow-on JIRAs for KIP-853 (many of which were 
"refactors," "optimizations", "tests", etc.) to KAFKA-17241 to hopefully clear 
up the confusion a bit. I think a lot of these would be good newbie JIRAs 
(although probably not the "refactor" ones :)

As I said, we'll shoot for getting the remaining feature tasks for KIP-853 done 
in a few days. Probably by Monday.

best,
Colin


On Thu, Aug 1, 2024, at 12:18, Colin McCabe wrote:
> Hi Josep,
>
> I don't have a strong opinion on whether KAFKA-16524 should land in 
> 3.9.1. Let's discuss that more on the mailing list when it's time for 
> 3.9.1.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024, at 12:07, Josep Prat wrote:
>> Hi Colin,
>> Will JIRAs like adding metrics (
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16524) make it in patch version
>> of 3.9?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:49 PM Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Colin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification. This makes much more sense now.
>>>
>>> Mickael
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:43 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Chris,
>>> >
>>> > I don't see why this shouldn't go to 3.9. Would you call this a bugfix?
>>> >
>>> > best,
>>> > Colin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 13:54, Chris Egerton wrote:
>>> > > Hi Colin,
>>> > >
>>> > > Would it be alright if I cherry-picked
>>> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16678 onto 3.9? This isn't a
>>> > > regression but it's a low-risk fix that I'd like to get into the next
>>> > > release if possible.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers,
>>> > >
>>> > > Chris
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 12:29 AM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I would recommend against large refactorings in trunk until the first
>>> RC
>>> > >> for 3.9 - that will reduce cherry-pick friction. Once we have the
>>> first RC,
>>> > >> subsequent changes to 3.9 should be limited in scope.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ismael
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 4:31 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > Yeah, please go ahead. I know a lot of people are waiting for 4.0.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > best,
>>> > >> > Colin
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024, at 16:05, Matthias J. Sax wrote:
>>> > >> > > Thanks for clarifying Colin. So my assumptions were actually
>>> correct.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > We have a lot of contributors waiting to pick-up 4.0 tickets, and
>>> I'll
>>> > >> > > go ahead a tell them that we are ready and they can start to pick
>>> them
>>> > >> > up.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Thanks.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > -Matthias
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On 7/30/24 3:51 PM, Colin McCabe wrote:
>>> > >> > >> Hi Chia-Ping Tsai,
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> If you can get them done this week then I think we can merge
>>> them in
>>> > >> to
>>> > >> > 3.9. If not, then let's wait until 4.0, please.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> best,
>>> > >> > >> Colin
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024, at 09:07, Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
>>> > >> > >>> hi Colin,
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>> Could you please consider adding
>>> > >> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16666 to 3.9.0
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>> The issue is used to deprecate the formatters in core module.
>>> Also,
>>> > >> it
>>> > >> > >>> implements the replacements for them.
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>> In order to follow the deprecation rules, it would be nice to
>>> have
>>> > >> > >>> KAFKA-16666 in 3.9.0
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>> If you agree to have them in 3.9.0, I will cherry-pick them into
>>> > >> 3.9.0
>>> > >> > when
>>> > >> > >>> they get merged to trunk.
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>> Best,
>>> > >> > >>> Chia-Ping
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>> José Armando García Sancio <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> 於
>>> > >> > 2024年7月30日 週二
>>> > >> > >>> 下午11:59寫道:
>>> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> > >>>> Thanks Colin.
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>> For KIP-853 (KRaft Controller Membership Changes), we still
>>> have the
>>> > >> > >>>> following features that are in progress.
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>> 1. UpdateVoter RPC and request handling
>>> > >> > >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16533>
>>> > >> > >>>> 2. Storage tool changes for KIP-853
>>> > >> > >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16518>
>>> > >> > >>>> 3. kafka-metadata-quorum describe changes for KIP-853
>>> > >> > >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16521>
>>> > >> > >>>> 4. kafka-metadata-quorum add voter and remove voter changes
>>> > >> > >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16523>
>>> > >> > >>>> 5. Sending UpdateVoter request and response handling
>>> > >> > >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16534>
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>> Can we cherry pick them to the release branch 3.9.0 when they
>>> get
>>> > >> > merged to
>>> > >> > >>>> trunk? They have a small impact as they shouldn't affect the
>>> rest of
>>> > >> > Kafka
>>> > >> > >>>> and only affect the kraft controller membership change
>>> feature. I
>>> > >> > expected
>>> > >> > >>>> them to get merged to the trunk branch in the coming days.
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:02 PM Colin McCabe <
>>> cmcc...@apache.org>
>>> > >> > wrote:
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>> Hi Kafka developers and friends,
>>> > >> > >>>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>> As promised, we now have a release branch for the upcoming
>>> 3.9.0
>>> > >> > release.
>>> > >> > >>>>> Trunk has been bumped to 4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
>>> > >> > >>>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>> I'll be going over the JIRAs to move every non-blocker from
>>> this
>>> > >> > release
>>> > >> > >>>> to
>>> > >> > >>>>> the next release.
>>> > >> > >>>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>>  From this point, most changes should go to trunk.
>>> > >> > >>>>> *Blockers (existing and new that we discover while testing the
>>> > >> > release)
>>> > >> > >>>>> will be double-committed. *Please discuss with your reviewer
>>> > >> whether
>>> > >> > your
>>> > >> > >>>>> PR should go to trunk or to trunk+release so they can merge
>>> > >> > accordingly.
>>> > >> > >>>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>> *Please help us test the release! *
>>> > >> > >>>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>> best,
>>> > >> > >>>>> Colin
>>> > >> > >>>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> > >>>> --
>>> > >> > >>>> -José
>>> > >> > >>>>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>>
>>
>>
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