+1 Greg. I'd be really happy to bump trunk to 4.0.0, but only once we know
we can safely do so.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:24 PM Greg Harris <greg.har...@aiven.io.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I agree that we are not yet ready for breaking changes on trunk, so I
> opened a PR to bump to 3.10.0-SNAPSHOT:
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16732
>
> When KIP-853 is feature complete, we can bump to 4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 10:01 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > As per KIP-1012[1] we can't yet say if the next release will be 3.10.0 or
> > 4.0.0. It will come down to the state of KIP-853 in 3.9.0.
> >
> > So, in my opinion we should still wait before committing breaking changes
> > on trunk until we know for sure that KIP-853 will make it.
> > Maybe Jose can share more about the chances of this.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1012%3A+The+need+for+a+Kafka+3.8.x+release
> >
> > Best
> >
> >
> > ------------------
> > Josep Prat
> > Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
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> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 18:52 Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for cutting the release branch.
> > >
> > > It's great to see `trunk` being bumped to 4.0-SNAPSHOT, and I wanted to
> > > follow up on this:
> > >
> > > We have a bunch of tickets that we can only ship with 4.0 release, and
> > > these tickets were blocked so far. I wanted to get confirmation that we
> > > will stick with 4.0 coming after 3.9, and that we can start to work on
> > > these tickets? Or is there any reason why we should still hold off to
> > > pick them up? We don't want to delay them unnecessary to make sure we
> > > can them all into 4.0 release, but of course also don't want to work on
> > > them prematurely (to avoid that we have to revert them after merging).
> > >
> > >
> > > -Matthias
> > >
> > > On 7/30/24 9:07 AM, Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> > > > hi Colin,
> > > >
> > > > Could you please consider adding
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16666 to 3.9.0
> > > >
> > > > The issue is used to deprecate the formatters in core module. Also,
> it
> > > > implements the replacements for them.
> > > >
> > > > In order to follow the deprecation rules, it would be nice to have
> > > > KAFKA-16666 in 3.9.0
> > > >
> > > > If you agree to have them in 3.9.0, I will cherry-pick them into
> 3.9.0
> > > when
> > > > they get merged to trunk.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Chia-Ping
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > José Armando García Sancio <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> 於
> 2024年7月30日
> > > 週二
> > > > 下午11:59寫道:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Colin.
> > > >>
> > > >> For KIP-853 (KRaft Controller Membership Changes), we still have the
> > > >> following features that are in progress.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. UpdateVoter RPC and request handling
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16533>
> > > >> 2. Storage tool changes for KIP-853
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16518>
> > > >> 3. kafka-metadata-quorum describe changes for KIP-853
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16521>
> > > >> 4. kafka-metadata-quorum add voter and remove voter changes
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16523>
> > > >> 5. Sending UpdateVoter request and response handling
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16534>
> > > >>
> > > >> Can we cherry pick them to the release branch 3.9.0 when they get
> > > merged to
> > > >> trunk? They have a small impact as they shouldn't affect the rest of
> > > Kafka
> > > >> and only affect the kraft controller membership change feature. I
> > > expected
> > > >> them to get merged to the trunk branch in the coming days.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:02 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Kafka developers and friends,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As promised, we now have a release branch for the upcoming 3.9.0
> > > release.
> > > >>> Trunk has been bumped to 4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'll be going over the JIRAs to move every non-blocker from this
> > > release
> > > >> to
> > > >>> the next release.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  From this point, most changes should go to trunk.
> > > >>> *Blockers (existing and new that we discover while testing the
> > release)
> > > >>> will be double-committed. *Please discuss with your reviewer
> whether
> > > your
> > > >>> PR should go to trunk or to trunk+release so they can merge
> > > accordingly.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Please help us test the release! *
> > > >>>
> > > >>> best,
> > > >>> Colin
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> -José
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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