Hi Chia,
Thank you for dropping by on this.

I have updated both the discussion thread and the Compatibility section
partly. But I would like to discuss a bit more about this and update.

3. how to keep the compatibility of updating slf4j version in the future?
According to slf4j compatibility (
https://www.slf4j.org/manual.html#compatibility), users need to update
their binding version after we update the slf4j-api version. That will be a
trouble as we have to file KIP every time in updating slf4j-api. Including
all binding jars in kafka is a solution, as we can take control over all
binding jars. WDYT?
Indeed, it is not ideal to file a kip always, and ship the upgraded
slf4j-api jars.
I like the approach of providing all binding jars within kafka, however I
see we have only reload4j backend in our dependencies, or I could be wrong.
So just providing a compatible reload4j with it should be ok ?
Or do we also provide other binding jars for logback, log4j, simple etc ?

Thanks,
Murali

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:04 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi Muralidhar
>
> thanks for writing the KIP. Please take a look at following comments:
>
> 1. please update the Discussion thread. it has incorrect link
>
> 2. please complete the section "Compatibility, Deprecation, and Migration
> Plan".  We had a good discussion in the PR (
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16324#discussion_r1643359783).
>
> 3. how to keep the compatibility of updating slf4j version in the future?
> According to slf4j compatibility (
> https://www.slf4j.org/manual.html#compatibility), users need to update
> their binding version after we update the slf4j-api version. That will be a
> trouble as we have to file KIP every time in updating slf4j-api. Including
> all binding jars in kafka is a solution, as we can take control over all
> binding jars. WDYT?
>
> Best,
> Chia-Ping
>
> Muralidhar Basani <muralidhar.bas...@aiven.io.invalid> 於 2024年7月2日 週二
> 上午3:30寫道:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Regarding KIP-1064 [0], I would like to start a discussion on upgrading
> > slf4j to 2.x, which is currently at 1.7.36, and with an option to
> > provide slf4j provider in run class.
> >
> > This is also discussed in jira [1] and git pr [2], and thought we should
> > have a kip.
> >
> > Please note this kip is intended from kafka 4.0.
> >
> > [0] -
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1064%3A+Upgrade+slf4j+to+2.x
> > [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16936
> > [2] - https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16324#discussion_r1644295632
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Murali
> >
>

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