As I wrote in [1], the ACL evaluation algorithm needs to be specified with respect to the specificity of the pattern so that we know exactly which if *-accounts-* takes precedence over nl-accounts-* or visa versa.
I think that we should spell out that precedence is evaluated as follows: 1. Remove patterns that do not match 2. More specific patterns take precedence over less specific patterns 3. for patterns of the same precedence DENY overrides ALLOW Determining specificity: Specificity is based on the Levenshtein distance between the pattern and the text being evaluated. The lower the distance the more specific the rule. Using the topic name: nl-accounts-localtopic we can evaluate the Levenshtein distance for various patterns. nl-accounts-localtopic = 0 *-accounts-localtopic = 2 nl-accounts-local* = 5 *-accounts-local* = 7 nl-accounts-* = 10 *-accounts-* = 12 In the special case of matching principles User matches are more specific than Group matches. I don't know if this should be added to KIP-1042 or presented as a new KIP. Claude [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/0l88tkbxq3ol9rnx0ljnmswj5y6pho1f <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1042%3A+Support+for+wildcard+when+creating+new+acls> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 12:18 PM Claude Warren <cla...@xenei.com> wrote: > Took me awhile to find it but the link to the KIP is > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1042%3A+Support+for+wildcard+when+creating+new+acls > > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:13 AM Murali Basani <murali.bas...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'd like to propose a suggestion to our resource patterns in Kafka ACLs. > > > > Currently, when adding new ACLs in Kafka, we have two types of resource > > patterns for topics: > > > > - LITERAL > > - PREFIXED > > > > However, when it comes to listing or removing ACLs, we have a couple more > > options: > > > > - MATCH > > - ANY (will match any pattern type) > > > > > > If we can extend creating acls as well with 'MATCH' pattern type, it > would > > be very beneficial. Even though this kind of acl should be created with > > utmost care, it will help organizations streamline their ACL management > > processes. > > > > Example scenarios : > > > > Let's say we need to create ACLs for the following six topics: > > nl-accounts-localtopic, nl-accounts-remotetopic, de-accounts-localtopic, > > de-accounts-remotetopic, cz-accounts-localtopic, cz-accounts-remotetopic > > > > Currently, we achieve this using existing functionality by creating three > > prefixed ACLs as shown below: > > > > kafka-acls --bootstrap-server localhost:9092 \ > > > --add \ > > > --allow-principal > > > > > > User:CN=serviceuser,OU=ServiceUsers,O=Unknown,L=Unknown,ST=Unknown,C=Unknown > > > \ > > > --producer \ > > > --topic nl-accounts- \ > > > --resource-pattern-type prefixed > > > > > > kafka-acls --bootstrap-server localhost:9092 \ > > > --add \ > > > --allow-principal > > > > > > User:CN=serviceuser,OU=ServiceUsers,O=Unknown,L=Unknown,ST=Unknown,C=Unknown > > > \ > > > --producer \ > > > --topic de-accounts- \ > > > --resource-pattern-type prefixed > > > > > > kafka-acls --bootstrap-server localhost:9092 \ > > > --add \ > > > --allow-principal > > > > > > User:CN=serviceuser,OU=ServiceUsers,O=Unknown,L=Unknown,ST=Unknown,C=Unknown > > > \ > > > --producer \ > > > --topic cz-accounts- \ > > > --resource-pattern-type prefixed > > > > > > However, if we had the 'MATCH' pattern type available, we could > accomplish > > this with a single ACL, as illustrated here: > > > > kafka-acls --bootstrap-server localhost:9092 \ > > > --add \ > > > --allow-principal > > > > > > User:CN=serviceuser,OU=ServiceUsers,O=Unknown,L=Unknown,ST=Unknown,C=Unknown > > > \ > > > --producer \ > > > --topic *-accounts-* \ > > > --resource-pattern-type match > > > > > > > > This pattern closely resembles PREFIXED but offers broader allow/deny > > rules. > > > > Implementing this change could significantly reduce the effort in several > > acl management processes. > > > > I welcome your thoughts and any concerns you may have regarding this > > proposal. > > > > Thanks, > > Murali > > > > > -- > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren >