Hi Lucas,

Thanks. I added the point about the upgrade guide as well.

Florin

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 11:06, Lucas Brutschy <lbruts...@confluent.io.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi Florin,
>
> thanks for the KIP! This looks good to me. I agree that the precise
> Java doc wording doesn't have to be discussed as part of the KIP.
>
> I would also suggest to include an update to
> https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/streams/upgrade-guide
>
> Cheers,
> Lucas
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:51 AM Florin Akermann
> <florin.akerm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Both,
> >
> > Thanks.
> > I added remarks to account for this.
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-962%3A+Relax+non-null+key+requirement+in+Kafka+Streams#KIP962:RelaxnonnullkeyrequirementinKafkaStreams-Remarks
> >
> > In short, let's add a note in the Java docs? The exact wording of the
> note
> > can be scrutinized in the pull request?
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 19:41, Guozhang Wang <guozhang.wang...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm just thinking we can try to encourage users to migrate from XX to
> > > XXWithKey in the docs, giving this as one good example that the latter
> > > can help you distinguish different scenarios whereas the former
> > > cannot.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:32 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Guozhang,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for pointing out ValueJoinerWithKey. In the end, it's just a
> > > > documentation change, ie, point out that the passed in key could be
> > > > `null` and similar?
> > > >
> > > > -Matthias
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/23 3:20 PM, Guozhang Wang wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Florin for the writeup,
> > > > >
> > > > > One quick thing I'd like to bring up is that in KIP-149
> > > > > (
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-149%3A+Enabling+key+access+in+ValueTransformer%2C+ValueMapper%2C+and+ValueJoiner
> > > )
> > > > > we introduced ValueJoinerWithKey which is aimed to enhance
> > > > > ValueJoiner. It would have a benefit for this KIP such that
> > > > > implementers can distinguish "null-key" v.s. "not-null-key but
> > > > > null-value" scenarios.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hence I'd suggest we also include the semantic changes with
> > > > > ValueJoinerWithKey, which can help distinguish these two scenarios,
> > > > > and also document that if users apply ValueJoiner only, they may
> not
> > > > > have this benefit, and hence we suggest users to use the former.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Guozhang
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:11 PM Florin Akermann
> > > > > <florin.akerm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-962%3A+Relax+non-null+key+requirement+in+Kafka+Streams
> > >
>

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