Thanks for kicking off the discussion, John and Guozhang!

> Just one thing that might be out of scope: if users want to enable the
versioned table feature across the topology, should we allow them to do it
via a single config rather than changing the materialized object at each
place?

Yes, I think this would be a great usability improvement and am in favor of
introducing such a config. As long as the config defaults to using
unversioned stores (which makes sense anyway), there will be no
compatibility concerns with introducing the config in a future release.
It's out of scope for this particular KIP as a result, but can hopefully be
introduced as part of the next release after 3.5.

Best,
Victoria

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 10:49 AM Guozhang Wang <guozhang.wang...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Victoria for the great writeup, with a thorough analysis and
> trade-offs. I do not have any major questions about the proposal.
>
> Just one thing that might be out of scope: if users want to enable the
> versioned table feature across the topology, should we allow them to
> do it via a single config rather than changing the materialized object
> at each place? Maybe we can defer that for future discussions, but
> just want to hear your thoughts.
>
> Anyways, I think this proposal is great just as-is even if we agree to
> do the configuration improvement later.
>
>
> Guozhang
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:52 PM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the KIP, Victoria!
> >
> > I had some questions/concerns, but you addressed them in the Rejected
> Alternatives section. Thanks for the thorough proposal!
> >
> > -John
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, at 18:59, Victoria Xia wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I have a proposal for updating Kafka Streams's stream-table join and
> > > table-table join semantics for the new versioned key-value state stores
> > > introduced in KIP-889
> > > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-889%3A+Versioned+State+Stores
> >.
> > > Would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions.
> > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-914%3A+Join+Processor+Semantics+for+Versioned+Stores
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Victoria
>

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