Hi Guozhang,

Removing the script-extention from the KIP is good to me.
+1 from me, too.

Thank you.
Luke

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:39 AM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I tried to implement the script-extension along with the unit test coverage
> on DescribeConsumerGroupTest, but it turns out more complicated than I
> anticipated due to the fact that we need to make sure the `require-stable`
> flag is only effective for describing consumers. This also makes me feeling
> that maybe my original thought of just adding that option for "--describe"
> may not be comprehensive and we may need to think through under which
> action the additional option should be allowed. So I would remove this part
> of the KIP and continue the voting thread.
>
> I've updated the KIP addressing the renaming suggestion. And I will close
> this thread as accepted with three binding votes (John, David, Bruno) if I
> don't hear from you for more suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Guozhang
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 1:57 AM Bruno Cadonna <cado...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would prefer to not include the script-extension into the KIP if you
> > you cannot commit to its implementation. I think partially implemented
> > KIPs make release management harder. If we can avoid implementing KIPs
> > partially, we should do it.
> >
> > I am +1 either way. I just wanted to bring this up.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruno
> >
> > On 04.07.22 04:37, Luke Chen wrote:
> > > Hi Guozhang,
> > >
> > >> We can add it into this proposal though I could not commit to
> > implementing
> > > it myself with all the `DescribeConsumerGroupTest` coverage after it's
> > > accepted, instead I could add a JIRA ticket under this KIP for others
> > who's
> > > interested to chime in. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Sounds good to me.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > Luke
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 3:44 AM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for folks for your input !
> > >>
> > >> 1) I'm happy to change the setter names to be consistent with the
> > >> topicPartition ones. I used a different name for getter from setter
> as I
> > >> remember seeing some other options differentiating function names for
> > >> getter and setters, while some other options seem to be more on just
> > >> keeping the names the same. After getting your feedback I think it's
> > better
> > >> to do the same for both getter / setters.
> > >>
> > >> 2) For the kafka-consumer-group.sh tool, I looked at
> > >> ConsumerGroupCommand#describeGroups, and I think it's appropriate to
> add
> > >> it. I'm planning to add it in the shell tool as:
> > >>
> > >> ```
> > >> "Require brokers to hold on returning unstable offsets (due to pending
> > >> transactions) but retry until timeout for stably committed offsets"
> > >> "Example: --bootstrap-server localhost:9092 --describe --group group1
> > >> --offsets --require-stable"
> > >> ```
> > >>
> > >> We can add it into this proposal though I could not commit to
> > implementing
> > >> it myself with all the `DescribeConsumerGroupTest` coverage after it's
> > >> accepted, instead I could add a JIRA ticket under this KIP for others
> > who's
> > >> interested to chime in. What do you think?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Guozhang
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 1:18 AM David Jacot
> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Guozhang,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the KIP!
> > >>>
> > >>> I agree with Luke. `requireStable` seems more consistent.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regarding the kafka-consumer-group command line tool, I wonder if
> > >>> there is real value in doing it. We don't necessarily have to add all
> > >>> the options to it but we could if it is proven to be useful. Anyway,
> I
> > >>> would leave it for a future KIP.
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 (binding)
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> David
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 9:47 AM Bruno Cadonna <cado...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Guozhang,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thank you for the KIP!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I do not have strong feelings about the naming of the getter, but I
> > >> tend
> > >>>> to agree with Luke.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regarding, the adaptation of the kafka-consumer-group.sh script, I
> am
> > >>>> fine if we leave that for a future KIP.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> +1 (binding)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best,
> > >>>> Bruno
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 01.07.22 06:05, Luke Chen wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Guozhang,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for the KIP.
> > >>>>> Some comments:
> > >>>>> 1. I have the same question as Ziming, should we also add an option
> > >> in
> > >>>>> kafka-consumer-groups.sh in this KIP?
> > >>>>> Or you'd like to keep the current scope, and other people can
> create
> > >> a
> > >>>>> follow-up KIP to address the kafka-consumer-groups.sh script?
> > >>>>> 2. The setter method name: `shouldRequireStable` might need to
> rename
> > >>> to
> > >>>>> `requireStable` to be consistent with above `topicPartitions`
> > >>> getter/setter
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you.
> > >>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:17 AM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks for the KIP, Guozhang!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I’m +1 (binding)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -John
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022, at 21:17, deng ziming wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Thanks for this KIP,
> > >>>>>>> we have a kafka-consumer-groups.sh shell which is based on the
> API
> > >>> you
> > >>>>>>> proposed to change, is it worth update it as well?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>> Ziming
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hello folks,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'd like to call out for a vote for the following KIP to expose
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>> requireStable flag inside admin client's options as well:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-851%3A+Add+requireStable+flag+into+ListConsumerGroupOffsetsOptions
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Any feedback as well as your votes are welcome.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -- Guozhang
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> -- Guozhang
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>

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