Hi Sophie/Matthias,

Is it still possible to roll back the other changes without having to
un-deprecate the JoinWindows.of(size) method?



On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:12 PM Sophie Blee-Goldman
<sop...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:

> Just to clarify, this only affects the JoinWindows APIs. As Matthias
> mentioned this KIP
> will still ship partially in 3.0, specifically the APIs and changes to the
> three aggregation
> Windows classes: TimeWindows, SlidingWindows, and SessionWindows
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 6:14 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > As discussed on the 3.0 release thread, we discovered a blocker bug for
> > 3.0 that is related to KIP-633.
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-13216
> >
> > We propose to partially roll-back KIP-633 API changes to "disable" the
> > new buggy stream-stream join implementation to guard its usage. I
> > prepared a PR for the change for 3.0 branch:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/11233
> >
> > We don't need to roll-back anything in trunk, as we can just fix the
> > join for the 3.1 there (and keep the current KIP-633 implementation
> as-is).
> >
> > Bottom line is, that KIP-633 would only ship partially in 3.0 and will
> > be completed in 3.1 release.
> >
> >
> > Let us know if there are any concerns. Note that it's not a change to
> > the KIP itself, it's just a delay in shipping it.
> >
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > On 6/17/21 4:43 AM, Israel Ekpo wrote:
> > > Thanks Mathias,
> > >
> > > The only concerns I have is my ability to contain the excitement when
> > this
> > > feature finally gets merged into trunk for the upcoming release :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Quick follow up. I did a small update to the KIP with regard to
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12909
> > >>
> > >> Israel, Sophie, and Guozhang did agree to this change. I don't think
> we
> > >> need to re-vote.
> > >>
> > >> Please let us know if there are any concerns.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Matthias
> > >>
> > >> On 4/8/21 9:19 PM, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > >>> Hey all,
> > >>>
> > >>> This KIP has been accepted with
> > >>>
> > >>> four +1 (binding) votes from John, Guozhang, Matthias, and myself
> > >>> four +1 (non-binding) votes from Leah, Walker, Lotz, and Israel
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks everyone. Israel will take it from here
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:58 PM Sophie Blee-Goldman <
> > sop...@confluent.io>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>> I would also like to volunteer to implement it if that is ok.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That would be awesome -- I've been pretty overbooked lately and was
> > >>>> literally just about
> > >>>> to ask for volunteers to take over this KIP. Perfect timing :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The KIP still has about 4 hours to go on the voting but it looks
> like
> > >>>> it'll pass, so feel free to
> > >>>> start working on a PR. Thanks for volunteering!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:55 PM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have reviewed the KIP. The motivation makes sense and the
> > recommended
> > >>>>> API
> > >>>>> changes make sense as well.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-633%3A+Drop+24+hour+default+of+grace+period+in+Streams
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So +1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would also like to volunteer to implement it if that is ok.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 5:42 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> +1 (binding)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 4/6/21 10:15 AM, Lotz Utfpr wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Makes sense to me! +1
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Apologies for being brief. This email was sent from my mobile
> > phone.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 6 Apr 2021, at 18:45, Walker Carlson
> > >>>>> <wcarl...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This makes sense to me +1!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Walker
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:08 AM Guozhang Wang <
> > wangg...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:00 AM Leah Thomas
> > >>>>>> <ltho...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for picking this up, Sophie. +1 from me, non-binding.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Leah
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:42 PM John Roesler <
> > vvcep...@apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Sophie,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m +1 (binding)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> -John
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021, at 21:34, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to start the voting on KIP-633, to drop the awkward
> > 24
> > >>>>> hour
> > >>>>>>>>>>> grace
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> period and improve the API to raise visibility on an
> important
> > >>>>>>>>> concept
> > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka Streams: grace period nad out-of-order data handling.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the KIP:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-633%3A+Drop+24+hour+default+of+grace+period+in+Streams
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-633%3A+Drop+24hr+default+grace+period
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sophie
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> -- Guozhang
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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