Blocking in the constructor to fetch metadata doesn't solve the problem, since 
metadata still needs to be periodically refreshed over time.

best,
Colin

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021, at 09:51, Jesse Feinman wrote:
> Hi Moses, 
> 
> Specifically, on blocking in the constructor to fetch metadata, while I 
> like the idea of specifying the topics in the constructor and fetching 
> the metadata then, I think it leads to a few scenarios that could be 
> unexpected. First is if you try to use a topic that wasn't included in 
> the constructor which puts us back in the same position we're currently 
> in. Second, metadata is only cached for a configured period of time, if 
> a topic is published to infrequently then the metadata may fall out of 
> cache leaving us in the current situation again. And lastly, you call 
> this out as a con in the KIP, but a blocking constructor is very 
> unexpected which could result in issues like a service failing to start 
> up if metadata is missing.
> 
> For those reasons, I don't think it really addresses the core of either 
> issue very well so it probably isn't a great option.
> 
> Jesse
> 

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