Oh, yeah, looks like a copy/paste error. I'll admit I didn't type out each
of these method signatures
by hand from scratch. Thanks for catching this!

Added you so you should be able to edit the KIP now and fix this up.


On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:29 PM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was not able to edit the wiki page for the KIP.
>
> When you have a moment, please could you grant me permissions?
>
>   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~iekpo
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 4:17 PM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I noticed that the method signature in the KIP had the incorrect return
> > value.
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-633:+Drop+24+hour+default+of+grace+period+in+Streams
> >
> > Should I go ahead and update this in the KIP? I just noticed the error
> > during my implementation
> >
> > For the class org.apache.kafka.streams.kstream.SessionWindows
> >
> > public static *JoinWindows *ofInactivityGapAndGrace(final Duration
> > inactivityGap, final Duration afterWindowEnd);
> >
> > Should have been:
> >
> > public static *SessionWindows *ofInactivityGapAndGrace(final Duration
> > inactivityGap, final Duration afterWindowEnd);
> >
> > I will update the KIP to reflect what I think it needs to be. Please let
> > me know your thoughts when you see this.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 5:42 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> On 4/8/21 2:06 PM, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> >> > 1) Since the new APIs (eg ofSizeWithNoGrace and ofSizeAndGrace) are
> the
> >> > only static constructors
> >> > after this change, there seems to be no reason to keep the .grace
> >> around --
> >> > you've already specified
> >> > it with your choice of the static constructor.
> >> >
> >> > 2) Ack, updated the KIP
> >> >
> >> > 3) Ack, fixed
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:03 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks for the KIP Sophie. It make total sense to get rid of default
> >> >> grace period of 24h.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Some questions/comments:
> >> >>
> >> >> (1) Is there any particular reason why we want to remove
> >> >> `grace(Duration)` method?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> (2) About `SlidingWindows#withTimeDifferenceAndGrace` -- personally I
> >> >> think it's worth to clean it up right now -- given that sliding
> windows
> >> >> are rather new the "splash radius" should be small.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> (3) Some nits on wording:
> >> >>
> >> >>> This config determines how long after a window closes any new data
> >> will
> >> >> still be processed
> >> >>
> >> >> Should be "after a window ends" -- a window is closed after grace
> >> period
> >> >> passed.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> one which indicates to use no grace period and not handle
> out-of-order
> >> >> data
> >> >>
> >> >> Seems strictly not correct -- if there is a window from 0 to 100 and
> >> you
> >> >> get record with ts 99,98,97,...,0 all but the first of those records
> >> are
> >> >> out-of-order but they are still processed even with a grace period of
> >> zero.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe better: "one which indicate to use no grace period and close
> the
> >> >> window immediately when the window ends."
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> and make a conscious decision to skip the grace period and drop
> >> >> out-of-order records,
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe better: "and make a conscious decision to skip the grace period
> >> >> and close a window immediately"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Matthias
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/31/21 5:02 PM, Guozhang Wang wrote:
> >> >>> Hello Sophie,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I agree that the old 24-hour grace period should be updated, and I
> >> also
> >> >>> think now it is a better idea to make the grace period "mandatory"
> >> from
> >> >> the
> >> >>> API names since it is a very important concept and hence worth
> >> >> emphasizing
> >> >>> to users up front.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Guozhang
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:58 PM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Thanks for bringing this up, Sophie!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> This has indeed been a pain point for a lot of people.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It's a really thorny issue with no obvious "right" solution.
> >> >>>> I think your proposal is a good one.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >>>> -John
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 13:28 -0700, Sophie Blee-Goldman
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> Hey all,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It's finally time to reconsider the default grace period in Kafka
> >> >>>> Streams,
> >> >>>>> and hopefully save a lot of suppression users from the pain of
> >> figuring
> >> >>>> out
> >> >>>>> why their results don't show up until 24 hours later. Please check
> >> out
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>> proposal and let me know what you think.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> KIP:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-633%3A+Drop+24+hour+default+of+grace+period+in+Streams
> >> >>>>> <
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-633%3A+Drop+24hr+default+grace+period
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-8613
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>> Sophie
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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