Thanks, Walker!

Your proposal looks good to me.

-John

On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 18:29 -0800, Walker Carlson wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Guozhang!
> 
> I clarified some of the points in the Proposed Changes section so hopefully
> it will be more clear what is going on now. I also agree with your
> suggestion about the possible call to close() on ERROR so I added this
> line.
> "Close() called on ERROR will be idempotent and not throw an exception, but
> we will log a warning."
> 
> I have linked those tickets and I will leave a comment trying to explain
> how these changes will affect their issue.
> 
> walker
> 
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:57 PM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Walker,
> > 
> > Thanks for the KIP! Overall it looks reasonable to me. Just a few minor
> > comments for the wiki page itself:
> > 
> > 1) Could you clarify the conditions when RUNNING / REBALANCING ->
> > PENDING_ERROR will happen; and when PENDING_ERROR -> ERROR will happen.
> > E.g. when I read "Streams will only reach ERROR state in the event of an
> > exceptional failure in which the `StreamsUncaughtExceptionHandler` chose to
> > either shutdown the application or the client." I thought the first
> > transition would happen before the handler, and the second transition would
> > happen immediately after the handler returns "shutdown client" or "shutdown
> > application", until I read the last statement regarding "SHUTDOWN_CLIENT".
> > 
> > 2) A compatibility issue: today it is possible that users would call
> > Streams APIs like shutdown in the global state transition listener. And
> > it's common to try shutting down the application automatically when
> > transiting to ERROR (assuming it was not a terminating state). I think we
> > could consider making this call a no-op and log a warning.
> > 
> > 3) Could you link the following JIRAs in the "JIRA" field?
> > 
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-10555
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-9638
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-6520
> > 
> > And maybe we can also left a comment on those tickets explaining what would
> > happen to tackle the issues after this KIP.
> > 
> > 
> > Guozhang
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:16 PM Walker Carlson <wcarl...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > I'd like to propose KIP-696 to clarify the meaning of ERROR state in the
> > > KafkaStreams Client State Machine. This will update the States to be
> > > consistent with changes in KIP-671 and KIP-663.
> > > 
> > > Here are the details: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/lCvZCQ
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Walker
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > -- Guozhang
> > 


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