Thanks Noa for the suggested path. Like you mentioned, I feel this
mechanism is a little bit overkill for a simple security file reloading
case. Could you provide more context on the benefit of doing a customized
KeyManager setup? TBH, I don't see Kafka going deep into these low level
security details yet.

Best,
Boyang

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 4:02 AM Noa Resare <n...@resare.com> wrote:

> Hi Boyang,
>
> I think that it would improve the ergonomics of dealing with short lived
> certificates to have this be the default behaviour.
>
> It should be noted that transparently reloading certificates and keys when
> they changed on disk can be implemented right now registering a custom
> KeyManagerFactory, but to say that the JDK is designed to make this easy
> would be an overstatement. The things that we do to get this working:
>
> 1. Create a class implementing SecurityProviderCreator that will return a
> Provider that registers a custom KeyManagerFactory implementation.
> 2. This custom KeyManagerFactory would return KeyManager instances that
> implements X509ExendedKeyManager
> 3. The custom KeyManager would return cached but up to date values for the
> getCertificateChain() and getPrivateKey() methods.
> 5. Configure Kafka with security.providers referencing the class defined
> in 1)
>
> This is not something I would wish upon anyone, but it works. Solving this
> for everyone inside Apache Kafka seems like a much preferred solution.
>
> Cheers
> noa
>
> ps. It seems my apple.com <http://apple.com/> email address ends up on
> the list as apple.com <http://apple.com/>.INVALID. Is this a known
> problem? For now I’m working around it by using my personal email.
>
> > On 4 Dec 2020, at 01:28, Boyang Chen <reluctanthero...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey there,
> >
> > I would like to start the discussion thread for KIP-687:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-687%3A+Automatic+Reloading+of+Security+Store
> >
> > This KIP is trying to deprecate the AlterConfigs API support of updating
> > the security store by reloading path in-place, and replace with a
> > file-watch mechanism inside the broker. Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Best,
> > Boyang
>
>

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