Great initiative!

I liked the proposed names, too.


-Matthias


On 6/22/20 4:48 PM, Guozhang Wang wrote:
> Xavier, thanks for the KIP! The proposed names make sense to me.
> 
> Guozhang
> 
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:24 PM Xavier Léauté <xav...@confluent.io> wrote:
> 
>> Please check the list for updated config / argument names.
>>
>> I also added a proposal to replace the term "blackout" with "backoff",
>> which is used internally in the replication protocol.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:10 PM Xavier Léauté <x...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree we could improve on some of the config names. My thinking here is
>>> that unless we had some precedent for a different name, it seemed
>>> relatively straightforward to follow the approach other open source
>>> projects have taken. It also makes migration for users easy if we are
>>> consistent in the renaming, so we should find terms we can use across the
>>> board.
>>>
>>> A cursory search indicates we already use include/exclude for topic
>>> creation config in Connect, so I think it makes sense to align on that.
>>> I'll update the KIP accordingly.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ryanne Dolan <ryannedo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Xavier, I'm dismayed to see some of these instances are my fault. Fully
>>>> support your plan.
>>>>
>>>> John, I had the same thought -- "list" is extraneous here. In the case
>> of
>>>> "topics.whitelist" we already have precedent to just use "topics".
>>>>
>>>> Ryanne
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 12:43 PM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Xavier!
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m +1 on this idea, and I’m glad this is the extent of what needs to
>>> be
>>>>> changed. I recall when I joined the project being pleased at the lack
>>> of
>>>>> common offensive terminology. I hadn’t considered
>> whitelist/blacklist,
>>>> but
>>>>> I can see the argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allowlist/blocklist are kind of a mouthful, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think of just “allow” and “deny” instead? This is common
>>>>> terminology in ACLs for example, and it doesn’t really seem necessary
>>> to
>>>>> say “list” in the config name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively, looking at the actual configs, it seems like
>> “include”,
>>>>> “include-only” (or “only”) and “exclude” might be more appropriate in
>>>>> context.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this doesn’t kick off a round of bikeshedding. I’m really fine
>>>>> either way; I doubt it matters much. I just wanted to see if we can
>>> name
>>>>> these configs without making up new multi-syllable words.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for bringing it up!
>>>>> -John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, at 09:31, Ron Dagostino wrote:
>>>>>> Yes.  Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:20 AM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you so much for this initiative. Small change, but it makes
>>> our
>>>>>>> community more inclusive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gwen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 6:02 PM Xavier Léauté <x...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are a number of places in our codebase that use racially
>>>> charged
>>>>>>>> terms. I am proposing we update them to use more neutral terms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The KIP lists the ones I have found and proposes alternatives.
>> If
>>>> you
>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> any I missed or did not consider, please reply and I'll add
>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-629%3A+Use+racially+neutral+terms+in+our+codebase
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> Xavier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 
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