Hi Mickael,

Thanks for the KIP. That looks very useful.

I have few small comments/suggestions:

1. I was about the make a similar suggestion than Konstantine did regarding
requiring to recompile old formatters. While the formatters are not
directly part of the public API, I think that we can argue that, as they
are accepted by the console consumer, they are somehow part of it. It is a
bit a gray zone. With this in mind, I lean towards supporting both
interfaces by instantiating one or the other instead of making the old one
implements the new one. It is nicer for our users and require a similar
effort to implement overall.

2. Should the interface implement Configurable and Closable with default
empty implementations? That would make it similar to our other interfaces
but I am not entirely sure that works with the properties.

3. Should we directly move the existing Formatters to using the new
interface?

Regards,
David





Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 19:13, Maulin Vasavada <maulin.vasav...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:47 AM Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Bumping this thread. Let me know if you have any questions or feedback.
> >
> > So far, we have 2 binding and 5 non-binding votes.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:56 AM Manikumar <manikumar.re...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 (binding)
> > >
> > > Thanks for the KIP.
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 2:57 PM Mickael Maison <
> mickael.mai...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Konstantine for the feedback (and vote)!
> > > >
> > > > 1) I've added example commands using the new formatters
> > > >
> > > > 2) I updated the Compatiblity section to be more explicit about the
> > > > need for recompilation
> > > >
> > > > 3) Good point, updated
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:18 AM Konstantine Karantasis
> > > > <konstant...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Michael.
> > > > > I think it's useful to enable specialized message formatters by
> > adding
> > > > this
> > > > > interface to the public API.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have my vote: +1 (binding)
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a few optional comments below:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Would you mind adding the equivalent command line example in the
> > > > places
> > > > > where you have an example output?
> > > > >
> > > > > Something equivalent to
> > > > > ./bin/kafka-console-consumer.sh --bootstrap-server localhost:9092
> > --topic
> > > > > __consumer_offsets --from-beginning --formatter
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> "kafka.coordinator.group.GroupMetadataManager\$GroupMetadataMessageFormatter"
> > > > >
> > > > > but with the equivalent formatter classes and expected topic names.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. I have to note that breaking old formatters by requiring
> > recompilation
> > > > > could be avoided if we didn't change kafka.common.MessageFormatter
> to
> > > > > extend the new org.apache.kafka.common.MessageFormatter. We could
> > > > maintain
> > > > > both, while the old one would remain deprecated and we could
> attempt
> > to
> > > > > instantiate one or the other type when reading the config and use
> > either
> > > > of
> > > > > the two different types in the few places in ConsoleConsumer that a
> > > > > formatter is used. But I admit that for this use case, it's not
> worth
> > > > > maintaining both types. The interface wasn't public before anyways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that, my small request would be to rephrase in the
> > compatibility
> > > > > section to say something like:
> > > > > 'Existing MessageFormatters implementations will require no changes
> > > > beyond
> > > > > recompilation.' or similar. Because, to be precise, existing
> > formatters
> > > > > _won't_ work if they are given as a parameter to a 2.6 console
> > consumer,
> > > > > without recompilation as you mention.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Finally, a minor comment on skipping the use of the `public`
> > specifier
> > > > > in the interface because it's redundant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Konstantine
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:26 PM Maulin Vasavada <
> > > > maulin.vasav...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:49 AM Mickael Maison <
> > > > mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bumping this thread as KIP freeze is approaching.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's a pretty small change and I have a PR ready:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8604
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 5:26 PM Ryanne Dolan <
> > ryannedo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1, non-binding
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2020, 9:24 AM Christopher Egerton <
> > > > chr...@confluent.io>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 5:02 AM Edoardo Comar <
> > eco...@uk.ibm.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mickael
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > From:   Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To:     dev <dev@kafka.apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > Date:   04/05/2020 11:45
> > > > > > > > > > Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [VOTE] KIP-597: MirrorMaker2
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